Q-baby! Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Maybe they should have raked the attic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 https://mobile.twitter.com/tylermonroe7/status/1117860871215013889 Shep is not a good newsman. He's a propagandist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I remember his rants, “You’re gonna die. You’re gonna DIE!” Scaring people on the coast during a hurricane that fizzled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: https://mobile.twitter.com/tylermonroe7/status/1117860871215013889 Shep is not a good newsman. He's a propagandist. What is it that you believe he did wrong in that clip? 2 hours ago, GG said: Goodie, now he's an expert in firefighting again. What could go wrong dumping tons of water onto a flaming structure several hundred years old. “Must act quickly.”* *and stupidly Ha can’t stop the idiotic from leaking out, even after a good couple of weeks for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: What could go wrong dumping tons of water onto a flaming structure several hundred years old. “Must act quickly.”* Arguably not much worse than what's happened. It's toast. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: What could go wrong dumping tons of water onto a flaming structure several hundred years old. “Must act quickly.”* *and stupidly Ha can’t stop the idiotic from leaking out, even after a good couple of weeks for him. 1 You ever been? There is more than Notre Dame in the area. What if that fire had spread? What if the building had collapsed spewing fire and hot debris? While there is a fair amount of clear area around the building, there are bushes, shrubs, and buildings close, not to mention the cars (and why my last photos were not that great). The news reports had police finally moving people away more than 30 minutes after the fire started. The early word was that there simply wasn't the correct equipment to reach the fire early enough to contain it, and then when the equipment moved in, it took quite some time to move into place. They did not move quickly enough (possibly unprepared?) to save Notre Dame. The issue with water from above was not necessarily the old building, but not knowing what current construction materials were on premises. Once that was known, yeah, water from above might have been helpful - providing it could have been dropped directly on the fire (not sure of wind, accuracy, etc). There are helicopters with bambi-buckets used in Europe. I am not certain of the logistics of using them in the Seine, and how accurately they could have deployed the water above the burning cathedral. Read this. It is interesting and informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Some good news: Quote “Good news: all the works of art were saved,” reported French journalist Nicolas Delesalle. “The treasure of the Cathedral is intact, the Crown of thorns, the Holy sacraments.” https://news.yahoo.com/live-updates-fire-at-notre-dame-cathedral-in-paris-173732973.html 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: You ever been? There is more than Notre Dame in the area. What if that fire had spread? What if the building had collapsed spewing fire and hot debris? While there is a fair amount of clear area around the building, there are bushes, shrubs, and buildings close, not to mention the cars (and why my last photos were not that great). The news reports had police finally moving people away more than 30 minutes after the fire started. The early word was that there simply wasn't the correct equipment to reach the fire early enough to contain it, and then when the equipment moved in, it took quite some time to move into place. They did not move quickly enough (possibly unprepared?) to save Notre Dame. The issue with water from above was not necessarily the old building, but not knowing what current construction materials were on premises. Once that was known, yeah, water from above might have been helpful - providing it could have been dropped directly on the fire (not sure of wind, accuracy, etc). There are helicopters with bambi-buckets used in Europe. I am not certain of the logistics of using them in the Seine, and how accurately they could have deployed the water above the burning cathedral. Read this. It is interesting and informative. I have. And I have faith that the proper authorities didn’t need the Tweeter in Chief chiming in with his deep knowledge of firefighting. How about, “Our thoughts and prayers are with the people of Paris and the brave firefighters trying to save a cultural treasure.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, BeginnersMind said: I have. And I have faith that the proper authorities didn’t need the Tweeter in Chief chiming in with his deep knowledge of firefighting. How about, “Our thoughts and prayers are with the people of Paris and the brave firefighters trying to save a cultural treasure.” Desperate to criticize, the BM is. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Desperate to criticize, the BM is. Trump had a good week last week. It’s ok to criticize him when he’s a jagoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 33 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: What is it that you believe he did wrong in that clip? What could go wrong dumping tons of water onto a flaming structure several hundred years old. “Must act quickly.”* *and stupidly Ha can’t stop the idiotic from leaking out, even after a good couple of weeks for him. Right, like the French could even scramble and fill a plane in time. But an aerial dropping would have been the only way to at least partially contain the fire early on. The structure was too high for fire trucks and fire boats. Just hanging out there with fire hoses was completely ineffective. But don’t let me get in the way of your Trump bashing fun. I hope ole no one was injured or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: Desperate to criticize, the BM is. Because he's got nothing, and I mean nothing, else to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: I have. And I have faith that the proper authorities didn’t need the Tweeter in Chief chiming in with his deep knowledge of firefighting. Why, you might even say Trump acted "stupidly." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: I have. And I have faith that the proper authorities didn’t need the Tweeter in Chief chiming in with his deep knowledge of firefighting. How about, “Our thoughts and prayers are with the people of Paris and the brave firefighters trying to save a cultural treasure.” It must be really miserable going through life looking for stuff to complain about. SMH Edited April 15, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: It must be really miserable going through like looking for stuff to complain about. SMH No. It’s quite easy actually. Just pick a quote and begin nit picking and then nag your way to a heightened state of self-importance and moral authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Someone has faith in the French authorities to not need the help of the American President... man, we are really re-writing history around here. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: It must be really miserable going through like looking for stuff to complain about. SMH I find it tragic that this happened and our president can’t show compassion but instead chimes in with cheap sideline advice. I expect more from him. You don’t and that’s ok. 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Because he's got nothing, and I mean nothing, else to offer. Why did you attack Shep Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Also heard the same on CNBC a moment ago... (they quoted French media as well, for clarity rather than offering a second source/confirmation) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, BeginnersMind said: I find it tragic that this happened and our president can’t show compassion but instead chimes in with cheap sideline advice. I expect more from him. You don’t and that’s ok. But when people offer thoughts and prayers for mass shootings?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Someone has faith in the French authorities to not need the help of the American President... man, we are really re-writing history around here. Equating ww2 to a fire in the cathedral is really a strong point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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