apuszczalowski Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 It's funny how many of these festival concerts are being canceled at the last minute this year. Woodstock 50 There was one at Gillette Stadium canceled There was one near where the Signed just played outside Barrie in Ontario 2 here in Welland (not as big but weekend festivals with some name acts) one a hair metal and another a country music one. They all seem to be huge fantasy dreams by the promoter that end up failing cause they don't have the financial backing to put them on as planned. The one at Gillette was supposed to have a huge bounce castle and go kart track. The one outside Barrie was scheduled to have Aerosmith, Kid Rock, Nickelback, Blondie and others, all were supposed to have been paid upfront instead of the typical deposit, and they were selling VIP passes with access to air conditioned tents that would have expensive custom built skull chairs and seating, with custom landscaping that included shrubs trimmed to look like Les Pauls. The one in Welland was canceled cause bands were backing out when the promotor wasn't meeting their agreement (most likely not getting their money). Most of these are small/first time promotors who think it's easy to put on something like this and that it will just pay for itself. They blow all their money on stupid things and then it all falls apart when tickets don't sell as fast as expected and bands start asking for their money..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Gugny said: Here's what gets me. This dude has had 50 YEARS to prepare for this. He waited 49 years to start. 49 years and 6 months. Edited July 11, 2019 by Just Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Same story, different day, Woodstock denied a permit, again, by the town of Vernon... https://www.localsyr.com/news/local-news/woodstock-50-has-its-permit-application-denied-again/ This article includes the letter to Woodstock promoters saying why it was denied. At this point, it sounds like they are only looking at Vernon Downs and no where else. Quite frankly, looking at their layout in the video, having worked at Vernon Downs years ago, there's gonna be no parking on site, they'll have to bus people in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 @mrags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 On 7/11/2019 at 1:04 PM, Gugny said: Here's what gets me. This dude has had 50 YEARS to prepare for this. He waited 49 years to start. WGI has all their permits well in advance for races and other events. They were basically renting the track to this clown and he must have thought he could just show up. I have to wonder how many of those acts were really under contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Next step, start "bribing" the local townspeople with promises.... https://www.syracuse.com/news/2019/07/woodstock-50-courts-vernon-with-offers-of-jobs-vip-lounge-playground.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 On 7/11/2019 at 1:22 PM, apuszczalowski said: It's funny how many of these festival concerts are being canceled at the last minute this year. Woodstock 50 There was one at Gillette Stadium canceled There was one near where the Signed just played outside Barrie in Ontario 2 here in Welland (not as big but weekend festivals with some name acts) one a hair metal and another a country music one. They all seem to be huge fantasy dreams by the promoter that end up failing cause they don't have the financial backing to put them on as planned. The one at Gillette was supposed to have a huge bounce castle and go kart track. The one outside Barrie was scheduled to have Aerosmith, Kid Rock, Nickelback, Blondie and others, all were supposed to have been paid upfront instead of the typical deposit, and they were selling VIP passes with access to air conditioned tents that would have expensive custom built skull chairs and seating, with custom landscaping that included shrubs trimmed to look like Les Pauls. The one in Welland was canceled cause bands were backing out when the promotor wasn't meeting their agreement (most likely not getting their money). Most of these are small/first time promotors who think it's easy to put on something like this and that it will just pay for itself. They blow all their money on stupid things and then it all falls apart when tickets don't sell as fast as expected and bands start asking for their money..... ....good assessment....whole thing isn't passing "the smell test".......there was some pretty MAJOR entertainment alleged to be appearing......should be required to have that tab 100% in escrow up front.....or did they plan on paying from gate receipts?......SHAM 101......I don't think Marquis Goodwin got his $1 mil yet from running the 40.........yet another scam after the poor guy and his wife lost twins during pregnancy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Three strikes, WS50 is still out at Vernon Downs https://www.syracuse.com/news/2019/07/woodstock-50-shot-down-no-festival-at-vernon-downs-town-says.html Quote There will be no Woodstock 50 concert at Vernon Downs this year, and probably none at all. The Vernon town planning board voted unanimously to uphold the denial of Woodstock’s application to hold a three-day concert in mid-August. Promoters said they don’t plan to challenge the decision in court. ... Lang left open the possibility that there could still be a Woodstock 50 somewhere. “There’s a crack,” he said. “We’ll know more tomorrow.” And now Virgin is out... https://www.pollstar.com/article/virgin-produced-pulls-out-of-woodstock-50-after-site-permit-denied-simply-no-time-left-138425 Quote "Virgin Produced, who has been advising with the Woodstock 50 team, has officially concluded its consulting role with respect to the company and the proposed festival," the statement provided to Pollstar reads. "Given that the attempt to secure permits with the Town of Vernon, NY and related state agencies has been finally denied, Virgin Produced has concluded its advisory mandate and terminated its services agreement. Virgin Produced, and its CEO Jason Felts, wish Woodstock all the best in its future endeavors." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 FYI, not gonna bother posting a link cause it really has nothing new and shocking to add, but WS50 has filed a third application with Vernon to host the concert at Vernon Downs, on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Last year, they kept talking about how there are going to be two competing Woodstock 50s this year. The one at the original site, now Bethel Woods, being the other one. Why have I heard nothing about that one?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 6 hours ago, bbb said: Why have I heard nothing about that one?!? Because that one was well planned with no issues? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 7 hours ago, bbb said: Last year, they kept talking about how there are going to be two competing Woodstock 50s this year. The one at the original site, now Bethel Woods, being the other one. Why have I heard nothing about that one?!? 1 hour ago, Just Jack said: Because that one was well planned with no issues? The one in Bethel is more of a celebration than an event, from what I understand. There is a Santana concert there over the weekend and they're loosely associating his show with the celebration. But, other than the regular museum/tours, I don't think there is anything else that requires admission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 17 hours ago, Just Jack said: FYI, not gonna bother posting a link cause it really has nothing new and shocking to add, but WS50 has filed a third application with Vernon to host the concert at Vernon Downs, on Wednesday. I saw that on the news yesterday, next Tuesday is supposed to be the next vote I think. That should be enough time to get the bribes in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Gugny said: The one in Bethel is more of a celebration than an event, from what I understand. There is a Santana concert there over the weekend and they're loosely associating his show with the celebration. But, other than the regular museum/tours, I don't think there is anything else that requires admission. Then the press, as usual, played it up more than it was. Last year, it was all about "Dueling Woodstocks!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Blah blah blah, town denies permit AGAIN, blah blah blah... https://www.localsyr.com/news/local-news/town-of-vernon-rejects-woodstock-50s-permit-application/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Everyone watched the Fyre Festival documentary and now it's much harder to pull these off......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Look out Maryland, Michael Lang is coming.... Woodstock 50 Festival Moves to Maryland in Bid to Salvage Event Oh, but the location they are looking at only holds 32,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Just Jack said: Look out Maryland, Michael Lang is coming.... Woodstock 50 Festival Moves to Maryland in Bid to Salvage Event Oh, but the location they are looking at only holds 32,000 Because Maryland really captures the true Woodstock spirit. About as much as Jay Z. This is turning into an Onion.com story. Just not funny. Michael Lang is the Al Bundy of music promoters. Edited July 26, 2019 by Gugny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 16 hours ago, Just Jack said: Look out Maryland, Michael Lang is coming.... Woodstock 50 Festival Moves to Maryland in Bid to Salvage Event Oh, but the location they are looking at only holds 32,000 So they have gone from 150,000 at WGI, then 65,000 at WGI >>>>> off to Vernon not sure what they expecting there to 32,000. Whats the main act now The Jimmy Sturr Polka Band? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike in Horseheads said: So they have gone from 150,000 at WGI, then 65,000 at WGI >>>>> off to Vernon not sure what they expecting there to 32,000. Whats the main act now The Jimmy Sturr Polka Band? Vernon I think they were shooting for 50-60,000, but the largest concert held there was Springsteen several years ago, and they capped that at around 32,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) So technically, right now, there is no one lined up to play WS50. https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/touring/8523989/woodstock-50-releases-all-artists-lineup-maryland-move-venue Quote Organizers of the Woodstock 50 festival have formally released all artists scheduled to play from their contracts, Billboard has learned. John Fogerty and Jay-Z had already reportedly pulled out of the Aug. 16-18 festival and last night (July 25), reps for the festival and organizer Michael Lang emailed talent agents with bands on the bill and informed them that they would not try to enforce performance contracts for the event. Organizers attempted to move Woodstock 50 to Merriweather Post Pavilion in Columbia, Maryland after their permit to stage the festival in Vernon, New York had been rejected. Edited July 26, 2019 by Just Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Just Jack said: So technically, right now, there is no one lined up to play WS50. https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/touring/8523989/woodstock-50-releases-all-artists-lineup-maryland-move-venue I'd have to wonder how many will show up in Bethel... not the jayz's type but the actual ones who played at the original. I think Joe McDonald is still alive... he would be rebel enough to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 57 minutes ago, T&C said: I'd have to wonder how many will show up in Bethel... not the jayz's type but the actual ones who played at the original. I think Joe McDonald is still alive... he would be rebel enough to do it. 50th Anniversary Weekend https://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/anniversary-weekend-information Ringo Starr and His All Starr Band with Edgar Winter Band and Blood, Sweat & Tears August 16th 2019 7:00pm https://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/events/ringo-starr-and-his-all-starr-band Santana with The Doobie Brothers August 17th 2019 7:00pm https://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/events/santana John Fogerty with Tedeschi Trucks Band & Grace Potter August 18th 2019 6:00pm https://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/events/john-fogerty-my-50-year-trip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, Just Jack said: 50th Anniversary Weekend https://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/anniversary-weekend-information Ringo Starr and His All Starr Band with Edgar Winter Band and Blood, Sweat & Tears August 16th 2019 7:00pm https://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/events/ringo-starr-and-his-all-starr-band Santana with The Doobie Brothers August 17th 2019 7:00pm https://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/events/santana John Fogerty with Tedeschi Trucks Band & Grace Potter August 18th 2019 6:00pm https://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/events/john-fogerty-my-50-year-trip My bad... I mean't the unannounced. Like Grace, Jack, Jorma... those types. Nash, Young, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Be cool if they crashed Bethel: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 When Country Joe says he's out, this thing is over! https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/country-joe-mcdonald-john-sebastian-woodstock-50-865039/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 52 minutes ago, bbb said: When Country Joe says he's out, this thing is over! https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/country-joe-mcdonald-john-sebastian-woodstock-50-865039/ GIMME AN EFFFF !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 It’s a free concert y’all!!!! https://wtop.com/local/2019/07/woodstock-50-vows-peaceful-enjoyment-free-tickets-at-merriweather-post/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Just Jack said: It’s a free concert y’all!!!! https://wtop.com/local/2019/07/woodstock-50-vows-peaceful-enjoyment-free-tickets-at-merriweather-post/ This dude is ***** nuts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Gugny said: This dude is ***** nuts. Agreed... this thing is dead in the water. Lang had all of these years to properly plan this and failed... not just failed but bigtime failed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 The Raconteurs, Miley Cyrus, Santana & More Cancel Woodstock 50 Appearances thats it. No twerking then its a no go (thats a joke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 New reader? Subscribe JULY 31, 2019 Woodstock 50 Is Officially Canceled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 It's about ***** time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 It’s not WS50’s fault, it was everyone else. Woodstock 50 organizer blames everyone else for canceled festivalhttp://www.newyorkupstate.com/entertainment/2019/08/woodstock-50-organizer-blames-everyone-else-for-canceled-festival.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poleshifter Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I'm glad it was canceled. If they could not do it justice, they should not use the Woodstock name. I was there 50 years ago. It's pretty cool to have been part of a piece of history. 4 weeks later, I went to the Toronto Rock n Roll Revival, with Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, and more. The Doors were the big name closing act. On the drive up to TO, the radio said John Lennon, Yoko, and their friend Eric Clapton would play the festival, so that cool as well (aside from Yoko). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 There's an update!!! Well, more of a recap.... Exclusive: Documents Reveal Strange Details About Canceled Woodstock 50 https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/vb5ew3/woodstock-50-exclusive-documents-lineup-set-times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plastic Cup Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 But....didn’t they have to find a new venue and throw everything together in less than a month for the original? What better way to honor the original spirit of chaos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 32 minutes ago, The Plastic Cup said: But....didn’t they have to find a new venue and throw everything together in less than a month for the original? What better way to honor the original spirit of chaos! Rules for permits have changed a lot in 50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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