Doc Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: No you didn't. I was quoting you. Yeah and this investigation was over from the start. The only thing left is to argue over a technicality. But again that didn’t cause him to commit the crime. But as I’ve said, I’m more than fine with him escaping charges as long as the video is made public. But he can’t have both the video kept hidden and be free of charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Just now, Doc said: Yeah and this investigation was over from the start. The only thing left is to argue over a technicality. But again that didn’t cause him to commit the crime. The "human trafficking" investigation was over from the start---because the cops knew right away that there was none going on at that place. So they waited a few months to rack up a couple hundred solicitation busts. Zero convictions so far with deals on the table.....and they are getting sued over their botches video taping. "if you get into legal trouble you shouldn't talk to the police or admit guilt and should fight the charges any way you can" So "fighting the charges any way you can" is the same as "using the oldest trick in the book is a charade and a waste of time"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) On 5/4/2019 at 10:35 PM, ricko1112 said: Kraft is a humanitarian and philanthropist. He's given more than $500M to charities. Or, he's an uber-rich a-hole who knows how to limit his tax liability. Probably somewhere in the middle. Edited May 7, 2019 by eball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The "human trafficking" investigation was over from the start---because the cops knew right away that there was none going on at that place. So they waited a few months to rack up a couple hundred solicitation busts. Zero convictions so far with deals on the table.....and they are getting sued over their botches video taping. "if you get into legal trouble you shouldn't talk to the police or admit guilt and should fight the charges any way you can" So "fighting the charges any way you can" is the same as "using the oldest trick in the book is a charade and a waste of time"? In most cases you don’t have clear-cut evidence like this. So in those cases you don’t admit guilt to the worst charge right off the bat and/or help law-enforcement make their case against you. And I’ve never once said that if you commit a crime, you shouldn’t be punished at all. We both admit that Bobby committed a crime. But if they throw out the video, there’s a good chance he’ll escape charges. And you’re OK with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 30 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The "human trafficking" investigation was over from the start---because the cops knew right away that there was none going on at that place. So they waited a few months to rack up a couple hundred solicitation busts. Zero convictions so far with deals on the table.....and they are getting sued over their botches video taping. "if you get into legal trouble you shouldn't talk to the police or admit guilt and should fight the charges any way you can" So "fighting the charges any way you can" is the same as "using the oldest trick in the book is a charade and a waste of time"? 11 minutes ago, Doc said: In most cases you don’t have clear-cut evidence like this. So in those cases you don’t admit guilt to the worst charge right off the bat and/or help law-enforcement make their case against you. And I’ve never once said that if you commit a crime, you shouldn’t be punished at all. We both admit that Bobby committed a crime. But if they throw out the video, there’s a good chance he’ll escape charges. And you’re OK with that? How long have you two been married, anyway? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Gugny said: How long have you two been married, anyway? Reportando! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 45 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah and this investigation was over from the start. The only thing left is to argue over a technicality. But again that didn’t cause him to commit the crime. But as I’ve said, I’m more than fine with him escaping charges as long as the video is made public. But he can’t have both the video kept hidden and be free of charges. Oh he might very well be able to, absolutely. I still think at some point the video is leaked but I give Kraft 80% probability he is not convicted, 70% video is legally not made public. There is no need for, no public good accomplished releasing that video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Oh he might very well be able to, absolutely. I still think at some point the video is leaked but I give Kraft 80% probability he is not convicted, 70% video is legally not made public. There is no need for, no public good accomplished releasing that video. I meant he can’t expect to have it both ways. As for the video being released, why not? It’s entertainment (for some). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Doc said: I meant he can’t expect to have it both ways. As for the video being released, why not? It’s entertainment (for some). I am highly certain Kraft's legal team, which probably has 100X the budget of the local DA, has "informed" the DA that if Kraft gets off and that video is made public Kraft's lawyers will charge them with the invasion of privacy, violating his civil liberties and whatever else they can throw at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 45 minutes ago, Gugny said: How long have you two been married, anyway? Its got be ought near 20 years ... maybe 22 Married on the D&C Forums they were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 39 minutes ago, Doc said: I meant he can’t expect to have it both ways. As for the video being released, why not? It’s entertainment (for some). Why not? From report of spa he had it both ways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 40 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I am highly certain Kraft's legal team, which probably has 100X the budget of the local DA, has "informed" the DA that if Kraft gets off and that video is made public Kraft's lawyers will charge them with the invasion of privacy, violating his civil liberties and whatever else they can throw at them. Unless they can prove he leaked it, I'm not sure what recourse they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Doc said: Unless they can prove he leaked it, I'm not sure what recourse they have. Copyright laysuit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Other than Kraft's embarrassment, what would be gained by releasing the video? And if Kraft's embarrassment is the only goal, that's shameful and borderline pathetic, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Where da ho's at?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: Other than Kraft's embarrassment, what would be gained by releasing the video? And if Kraft's embarrassment is the only goal, that's shameful and borderline pathetic, IMO. You do know of the clown world we live in these days right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, MacGyver said: You do know of the clown world we live in these days right? I am painfully aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toesy Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 This is 2019-Kraft's lawyers should allege that the Chinese woman is a transgender who self identifies as a man (or a cat) and thus all criticism of Mr. Kraft is technically a Hate Crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, Gugny said: Other than Kraft's embarrassment, what would be gained by releasing the video? And if Kraft's embarrassment is the only goal, that's shameful and borderline pathetic, IMO. Being forced to sell the team 20 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Where da ho's at?? I think Brady is in camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: Being forced to sell the team It will never happen; nor should it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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