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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

If I'm Pelosi I say make the DACA kids amnesty permanent and you have a deal.  

You boys are stone cold dreaming if you thing the GOP is going to agree to permanent amnesty.....

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1 minute ago, CommonCents said:

Is she losing?  Not being a smartass, I just find that hard to believe.

 

Left is left, right is right, and everyone in the middle is shaking their heads uttering ***** politicians. 

 

 

The only way one side or the other can win is to win the public relations battle. I don't see Pelosi or Schumer beating Trump if Trump plays it smart. He's gotta continue to use the Bully Pulpit and take his case to the people, all while showing he's the one that will work with the other side.

 

Pelosi has already succumbed to the left fringe of her party. She allowed them to make her take a stand that is only palatable to them, not the more moderate dems. She's in a similar position as John Boehner was with the Freedom Caucus.

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

This is accurate... but there are plenty in the middle starting to see one side is willing to compromise and the other will not. 

 

Once it becomes clear to the non partisans that one side is being purely political (which is all the DNC is doing right now), they'll lose support fast. 

Fair. In my view, it’s two experienced pros doing battle at the country’s expense. Great entertainment value but does this change anything come Election Day?

 

Both sides are so entrenched,  this isn’t swaying a percentage of those votes. The middle knows Trump needs his wall for his base and the Dems need not vote on it for theirs.

 

Seems like all the entertainment ultimately ends up as a wash for both sides. 

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3 minutes ago, CommonCents said:

Fair. In my view, it’s two experienced pros doing battle at the country’s expense. Great entertainment value but does this change anything come Election Day?

 

Both sides are so entrenched,  this isn’t swaying a percentage of those votes. The middle knows Trump needs his wall for his base and the Dems need not vote on it for theirs.

 

Seems like all the entertainment ultimately ends up as a wash for both sides. 

Trump needs to use the Bully Pulpit to convince people that a wall is necessary, not for his political purposes but for real security and prevention of child sex slavery. Nancy can't show that her stance is anything but for political purposes. Nancy can't win the battle for public opinion but Trump can if he plays it right.

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1 minute ago, The_Dude said:

 

 NON! Tu es!

 

Heavy sigh. Explain. 

Going to the mattresses-GTTM means button men going to a place other than their home ready to receive a call to go to the other mobster's territory and kill other mobsters, or disrupt their business or both. GTTM is like saying going to your barrack like in the army ready to go to war. The literally GTTM means a house or apartment with a bunch of mattresses on the floor, a bathroom, and a kitchen where probably 8-12 button men lived during the mob war.

 

https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-phrase-Going-to-the-mattresses-from-the-Godfather-movie-mean

 

That'll be $10 please.

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2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Going to the mattresses-GTTM means button men going to a place other than their home ready to receive a call to go to the other mobster's territory and kill other mobsters, or disrupt their business or both. GTTM is like saying going to your barrack like in the army ready to go to war. The literally GTTM means a house or apartment with a bunch of mattresses on the floor, a bathroom, and a kitchen where probably 8-12 button men lived during the mob war.

 

https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-phrase-Going-to-the-mattresses-from-the-Godfather-movie-mean

 

That'll be $10 please.

 

Huh....I love The Godfather and do not remember that. 

 

If I may make a suggestion if you like The Godfather — give Peaky Blinders on Netflix a shot. IMHO, it’s better than The Godfather. 

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17 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Seems to me that Obama was the one that was too ***** lazy to deal with DACA and settled for an unconstitutional EO. Trump merely wants to permanently solve a problem both with DACA and the border.

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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

If I'm Pelosi I say make the DACA kids amnesty permanent and you have a deal.  

 

And if I'm Trump I reply "Are you ***** kidding me?  That requires legislation.  That's YOUR job."

25 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

What an #######.  There are no "DACA protections."  Because it's nothing more than a memo (not even an EO) advising immigration crimes not be prosecuted.  That's not "protection."

 

He, and Pelosi, should grow up and counter with "Support passing DACA into law, and we'll give you half the funding for your wall."

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10 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

Huh....I love The Godfather and do not remember that. 

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10 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

If I may make a suggestion if you like The Godfather — give Peaky Blinders on Netflix a shot. IMHO, it’s better than The Godfather. 

I don't know if I'd go so far as to claim Peaky Blinders is better than The Godfather.  But Peaky Blinders is still f**king awesome :thumbsup:

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32 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

 

She is the fringe left.

No, she used to be the fringe left. She's now being led around by a Millennial who can't afford to live in DC, dances like she's on Ecstasy and swears that they're going to take over all three "chambers". Oh, and she wants that 21 trillion that's missing from the DOD and a 70% tax rate to fund 3.2 trillion a year in Medicare benefits for everyone.

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4 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

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I don't know if I'd go so far as to claim Peaky Blinders is better than The Godfather.  But Peaky Blinders is still f**king awesome :thumbsup:

 

Bar none — the best crime drama ever. 

 

Im obsessed with WWI which makes me appreciate that show a bit more. 

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37 minutes ago, TH3 said:

You boys are stone cold dreaming if you thing the GOP is going to agree to permanent amnesty.....

 

Most of America would oppose permanent amnesty as well, even a large number (if not the majority) of Democrats.  Maybe not the ideologues in DC, on TV, or in Academia, but the Democrats in flyover country

 

Trump has given Nancy a way out to show she can be bipartisan rather than succumb to the fringe of her caucus

Just now, The_Dude said:

 

Bar none — the best crime drama ever. 

 

Im obsessed with WWI which makes me appreciate that show a bit more. 

What are your thoughts on Boardwalk Empire?

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4 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

 

Most of America would oppose permanent amnesty as well, even a large number (if not the majority) of Democrats.  Maybe not the ideologues in DC, on TV, or in Academia, but the Democrats in flyover country

 

Trump has given Nancy a way out to show she can be bipartisan rather than succumb to the fringe of her caucus

What are your thoughts on Boardwalk Empire?

 

LOVED Boardwalk. Hated the final season. 

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