26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc said: Byron Leftwich? Good lluck with that! He's actually well regarded in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just now, Doc said: For what? He just became a (QB) coach last season. But the Cards' QB's haven't been playing well. Sounds like you should look him up and do some research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Sounds like you should look him up and do some research. Do some research on how well-regarded Leftwich is as an offensive mind when he's only been a coach for a whole 1-1/3 seasons, and for just QB's who have been playing lousy at that? Where do I start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Do some research on how well-regarded Leftwich is as an offensive mind when he's only been a coach for a whole 1-1/3 seasons, and for just QB's who have been playing lousy at that? Where do I start? It's called Google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It's called Google. You must have an article ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Doc said: You must have an article ready to go. I don't think so. I couldn't find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said: I don't think so. I couldn't find one. My mistake. Arizona Cardinals message boards don't count as "articles." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Doc said: My mistake. Arizona Cardinals message boards don't count as "articles." 15 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Byron Leftwich Gets First Chance as Offensive Coordinator By ANDY BENOIT October 19, 2018 Cardinals first-year head coach Steve Wilks made an unsurprising decision Friday, firing offensive coordinator Mike McCoy and promoting quarterbacks coach Byron Leftwich to that post. Two things I've heard whispered around the NFL: 1. McCoy's system is strung together by miscellaneous tactics and concepts that worked when he coached great field general quarterbacks like Philip Rivers and Peyton Manning, but were not user-friendly to your typical QB. 2. Leftwich, the former seventh overall pick out of Marshall who started 50 games in nine NFL seasons, is one of the league's great young quarterback minds. I heard this enough times that this past offseason I made a special trip to Phoenix to meet Leftwich and talk football. He was a joy to visit with, but to be perfectly honest, our conversation revealed very little. Leftwich is guarded with his—to borrow a Marc Trestman term—"football intellectual property." (To Leftwich's credit, he's unabashed about this. "I don't like to talk publicly about specific plays," he told me, "because I've heard too many coaches accidentally reveal things with what they thought were innocent, general comments.") What was apparent from our conversation is Leftwich believes that everything an offense does must tie not to a certain philosophy, but rather to your quarterback's perspective. You must understand how your QB sees things and build your plays and verbiage accordingly. That may seem obvious, but it's not something every offensive architect acts on. It's hilarious when people are dismissive without the benefit of any information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 seems someone is pretty obsessed with that rosen kid here. poor fella, the bills didn't pick him so he lives with a futile obsession over his boy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 I should dig up the predict the stats for Nathan Peterman's 1st start thread from last season to out just for the hilarity of it and post some of the numbers of some of the peanut gallery. It got really quiet after that until this preseason and now....crickets. Now in here talking smack like they know something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I should dig up the predict the stats for Nathan Peterman's 1st start thread from last season to out just for the hilarity of it and post some of the numbers of some of the peanut gallery. It got really quiet after that until this preseason and now....crickets. Now in here talking smack like they know something. Folks routinely make projections that turn out wrong. So what, really? You do seem pretty certain Rosen is destined to be a superior qb. I don't see how you know that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just now, Dr. Who said: Folks routinely make projections that turn out wrong. So what, really? You do seem pretty certain Rosen is destined to be a superior qb. I don't see how you know that either. I know what I see as far as certain QB skill sets that translate to success or failure at the NFL level. It doesn't make it 100% certain, but signs are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It's hilarious when people are dismissive without the benefit of any information. "He was a joy to visit with, but to be perfectly honest, our conversation revealed very little." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just now, Doc said: "He was a joy to visit with, but to be perfectly honest, our conversation revealed very little." By design. "I don't like to talk publicly about specific plays," he told me, "because I've heard too many coaches accidentally reveal things with what they thought were innocent, general comments.") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) I have to say for being proclaimed as the "Most ready to start" QB of the bunch, he has been pretty disappointing. He basically has been Josh Allen without the athleticism or the arm strength. Their stats and QB ratings are eerily similar...however Allen has had a handful of spectacular plays, mostly with his feet that Rosen has not. Allen also has thrown for more yards in a game than Rosen has(245 to 240) Edited October 20, 2018 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just now, matter2003 said: I have to say for being proclaimed as the "Most ready to start" QB of the bunch, he has been pretty disappointing. He basically has been Josh Allen without the athleticism or the arm strength. Their stats and QB ratings are eerily similar...however Allen has had a handful of spectacular plays, mostly with his feet that Rosen has not. 100% wrong. It's pretty obvious who has never looked in on the thread or posted in it before TNF this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I know what I see as far as certain QB skill sets that translate to success or failure at the NFL level. It doesn't make it 100% certain, but signs are there. You are more convinced than I am. Frankly, I don't care too much because he isn't playing for my team. The only reason this is an issue here is that those like yourself who are strongly convinced Rosen has a high probability of success are equally convinced Allen has a low probability of success. I see equivocity in both cases and I think Allen has the higher ceiling and much more appealing leadership qualities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just now, Dr. Who said: You are more convinced than I am. Frankly, I don't care too much because he isn't playing for my team. The only reason this is an issue here is that those like yourself who are strongly convinced Rosen has a high probability of success are equally convinced Allen has a low probability of success. I see equivocity in both cases and I think Allen has the higher ceiling and much more appealing leadership qualities. Higher ceiling if he matches physical ability with the other aspects of playing the position well at the NFL level. We all hope he makes it there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 100% wrong. It's pretty obvious who has never looked in on the thread or posted in it before TNF this week. Is it? Look pretty similar to me! Rosen 55% completion percentage, Allen 54% Rosen 66.0 Rating, Allen 61.6 Rating. Rosen 3 TDs and 5 INTs, Allen 2 TDs and 5 INTs Allen has Added 3 TD's on the ground that don't get accounted for in the stats. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: By design. "I don't like to talk publicly about specific plays," he told me, "because I've heard too many coaches accidentally reveal things with what they thought were innocent, general comments.") You don't have to talk about specific plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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