billsredneck1 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 21 hours ago, SinatraSinger said: It amazes me how many unemployed NFL GM's are Bills fans. Just amazing. no shiz...right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadtasteinQBs Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Dkollidas said: Except he won’t be drafted at 28yrs of age like Weeden was. Besides both having gone to Oklahoma state, I don’t see it. I guess you are right. Weeden was seen as having a way better arm... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Chris Trepasso on Rudolph and others. http://www.wgr550.com/media/audio-channel/3-20-chris-trapasso-cbs-sports-talks-draft-qbs-schopp-and-bulldog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) Chris Trapasso of CBS Sports was on WGR with Schoop and the Bulldog. He discussed Rudolph and the variety of options they can take on the qb position. He gave some interesting views on Rudolph and Jackson how he would be a good fit for Buffalo. As the draft approaches I'm becoming more open to staying at our spot and selecting our qb without giving up picks. This is about an 8 minute segment. http://www.wgr550.com/media/audio-channel/3-20-chris-trapasso-cbs-sports-talks-draft-qbs-schopp-and-bulldog Edited March 20, 2018 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 23 hours ago, BadtasteinQBs said: I love how you pointed out criticisms of the others, but then get to Rudolph and then minimize his lack of arm strength, like it isn't a big deal. The dude is a 3rd round talent. Rosen, Darnold, and Mayfield can spin the hell out of the ball. Your criticism of Jackson is juvenile as well. The guy threw for 9000 yards in 3 years. That is an exciting player. Just because he can also run, people want to try to doubt him. He is far more intriguing that Rudolph and may be there at 12. Watson has a weak arm too. He looked very legit. Flacco apparently has the strongest arm in the league and he’s not the best qb. It’s important but it isn’t you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadtasteinQBs Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, aristocrat said: Watson has a weak arm too. He looked very legit. Flacco apparently has the strongest arm in the league and he’s not the best qb. It’s important but it isn’t you know? Watson has a weak arm? Are you sure? Never heard that criticism of him. Only that he played in an offense in college that threw a lot of screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, BadtasteinQBs said: Watson has a weak arm? Are you sure? Never heard that criticism of him. Only that he played in an offense in college that threw a lot of screens. He Threw the ball 49 mph and I think no qb had ever been successful being under 5mph or something. Widely talked about last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 ...thought Rudolph may be McBeane's guy at 21, but not at 12.......probably available at 22 with Falk, Lauletta, White to following along thereafter.......so if the top dawgs are his target and Plan A and Plan 1-A are gone before 12 and he doesn't move up as draft unfolds, who would he pick at 12?..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...thought Rudolph may be McBeane's guy at 21, but not at 12.......probably available at 22 with Falk, Lauletta, White to following along thereafter.......so if the top dawgs are his target and Plan A and Plan 1-A are gone before 12 and he doesn't move up as draft unfolds, who would he pick at 12?..... At the same time, if you’re willing to take a QB at 21, why not just take him at 12, especially if 4 others are gone by the time you pick at 12??? You don’t take the chance. That’s 9 chances for another team to either take a guy, or someone to trade up and grab a guy. How pissed would we all be if we found out the Bills liked Rudolph but the Steelers or Patriots traded up to 20 or 21 to grab Rudolph and he ended up being good? If he’s your guys, take him. Same thing with any other guy and moving to 2. If they think that highly of a guy, go get him. Edited March 21, 2018 by Dkollidas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) On 2018-03-17 at 1:57 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: If Rudolph were "their guy", they could have stayed at 21 and 22 w/o the need to move up at all. Could and would are two different things. They probably or possibly could at #22. But, IF Rudolph is your guy you don’t chance it. Whoever you identify as your guy you need to over draft him OR chance not getting him. If you identify him as your guy you don’t chance it! Edited March 21, 2018 by Manther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Manther said: Could and would are two different things. They probably ornposdibly could at #22. But, IF Rudolph is your guy you don’t chance it. Whoever you identify as your guy you need to over draft him OR chance not getting him. If you identify him as your guy you don’t chance it! He'll be there and if the hold that pick, I hope they'll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He'll be there and if the hold that pick, I hope they'll. 26 you are very passionate and outspoken on QBs......you and I both know IF he is your guy you don’t chance it. Based on your opinion I would think Rudolph is not YOUR guy. It takes only one other team to like him and get him before us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Manther said: 26 you are very passionate and outspoken on QBs......you and I both know IF he is your guy you don’t chance it. Based on your opinion I would think Rudolph is not YOUR guy. It takes only one other team to like him and get him before us. He's not and if another team takes him I'll be fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: He's not and if another team takes him I'll be fine with it. I don’t think he is the Bills guy either. But, he could be. But, if he is we can’t wait and hope he is there. So, you only want a QB to do well for the Bills if he is YOUR guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Manther said: I don’t think he is the Bills guy either. But, he could be. But, if he is we can’t wait and hope he is there. So, you only want a QB to do well for the Bills if he is YOUR guy? Of course not. I want them to get the best available prospect and Rusdolph IMO is far from that. Edited March 21, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Of course not. I want them to get the best available prospect and Rusdolph IMO is far from that. Did you ever think you could be wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Manther said: Did you ever think you could be wrong? Obviously I can and have been. But I go on what I see. Edited March 21, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Dkollidas said: At the same time, if you’re willing to take a QB at 21, why not just take him at 12, especially if 4 others are gone by the time you pick at 12??? You don’t take the chance. That’s 9 chances for another team to either take a guy, or someone to trade up and grab a guy. How pissed would we all be if we found out the Bills liked Rudolph but the Steelers or Patriots traded up to 20 or 21 to grab Rudolph and he ended up being good? If he’s your guys, take him. Same thing with any other guy and moving to 2. If they think that highly of a guy, go get him. But you have to take value into account. People are assuming this guy is a first round pick and he isn’t. Besides Chris Trappaso, Rudolph is not regarded as one of the top fifty picks in this draft. You just don’t draft a third round quarterback at 12 overall. You have to take rankings and values into account. You cannot simply draft for need. That is how you wind up with roster devoid of talent. They really liked Nate Peterman last year and they got him in the fifth. Imagine how we would feel if the took him in the second instead of Dion Dawkins or Zay Jones? That’s what all if these Rudolph fans are suggesting. So we are going to take the 65th best player at 12? Why? That’s just terrible process. 1 hour ago, Manther said: Did you ever think you could be wrong? I dont think 95 percent of the scouting communiy is wrong and Trappaso and a few people on a message board are right. That seems highly unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 6 hours ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: Chris Trepasso on Rudolph and others. http://www.wgr550.com/media/audio-channel/3-20-chris-trapasso-cbs-sports-talks-draft-qbs-schopp-and-bulldog Trapasso (who I generally like) cannot eat a meal these days without Rudolph's balls falling out of his mouth.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) I love all these NFL "experts" who say that Rudolph is not good enough. I say Rudolph can be the man, He can do all things thru Christ. 12. Mason Rudolph QB Oklahoma St 22. Harrison Phillips DT Stanford 53. James Washington WR Oklahoma St 56. Josey Jewell ILB Iowa 65. Bradley Boseman C Alabama 96. Darius Leonard OLB South Carolina St 121. Cedrick Wilson WR Boise State 166. Bo Scarbrough RB Alabama 187. Marquis Hayes Edge Ole Miss Edited March 21, 2018 by Tatonka68 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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