brianthomas Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I've said it before & i'll say it again. For this system a CB like Gaines can easily be replaced. If the contract would be 4-5 mil a year, im all in, but I surely wouldnt want to see the Bills invest 9 mil a year on a player who historically misses 5-6 games a season. I see us replacing him via free agency while drafting another cb in the middle of the draft. We have too many other needs & issues to resolve than overpaying for an oft injured system cornerback 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: That only works if other teams are also requiring the same. Which implies you'd have to wait until after March 16th to sign him assuming he then finds out every other team in the league is requiring the same of him. The problem with that is I'm sure some team or teams will make offers without any injury provisions. I'd be shocked if he'd agree to something like that prior to the start of FA period, unless he truely wants to re-sign in Buffalo and no place else. He definitely wants to see what his value is on the market. Why would he sign with us without getting a feel from everyone else in the league when he's only been here 1 year? Personally, I wouldn't sign him to a 8-9 million dollar deal without an opt-out clause or some kind of injury clause. It's a business. You have to take some risks and have some certainties to bank on as well IMO. We will see what they do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I'd rather spend a couple million per year extra on someone I know fits our system, than try and go cheap and hope we hit gold. Resign Gaines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 You pay the man what he is worth - if not someone else will. Money itself is not the issue here. While the Bills currently have about $30 mill in 2018 cap space, they are said to have close to $100 mill in cap space projected for 2019. And this is all before any other personnel moves are made. (like releasing TT or Glenn for example) I am not taking any side in this - just stating the obvious. Injuries are a part of the game. Get over it. The question for McBean is what value do they place on Gaines services and if they don't like his price tag who will they get to replace him and how much will that player cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 5 hours ago, MAJBobby said: If you want to keep them together. (i am not sure i do with Gaines never being available). The contract structure is easy. Sign him Or any CB you want to keep long term to a long term deal with the cap hits big in years 1-3. Then when White comes time for his 5th year option or Long term extension the orher CB cap hits are low. Exactly right about structuring the deal. I would expect the bills pro scouts are working with Beane and McDermott on who is available that would fit the scheme and most likely cost less. If i was the Bills i would keep things cordial but let Gaines test the waters. See how the league views his injuries and the fact that he was surrounded by 3 other players that had great seasons. The injuries are not just something that occurred just this season. I think a strong base salary of $7 mil + time played and wins incentives could be good landing spot for everyone. If Gaines stayed healthy and the Bills won 11 games and had a dominant defense, i think the Bills would gladly pay him 10 million a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Someone should set up a poll. If you could have Gains or Avante Davis for the same $9m/yr, who would you rather? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 34 minutes ago, BuffaloFan68 said: Someone should set up a poll. If you could have Gains or Avante Davis for the same $9m/yr, who would you rather? I hope somehow they can sign both.. But im a dreamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 Honestly, I just can't imagine this team not only have two rock solid starting CBs like White and Gaines, but also having them play together for 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 20 hours ago, brianthomas said: I've said it before & i'll say it again. For this system a CB like Gaines can easily be replaced. If the contract would be 4-5 mil a year, im all in, but I surely wouldnt want to see the Bills invest 9 mil a year on a player who historically misses 5-6 games a season. I see us replacing him via free agency while drafting another cb in the middle of the draft. We have too many other needs & issues to resolve than overpaying for an oft injured system cornerback I don’t get why everyone wants to pay Gaines big bucks. He is a good player but my god all those injuries. I would sign him for 2 @ 15 and that’s it. Make it through those 2 years and I’ll sign ya again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Bakin said: I don’t get why everyone wants to pay Gaines big bucks. He is a good player but my god all those injuries. I would sign him for 2 @ 15 and that’s it. Make it through those 2 years and I’ll sign ya again. I agree with you, but my guess is he walks if we offered something like this. Gaines, like pretty much every other player, is looking for a high dollar contract over many years and as much guaranteed as possible. If we don't pay him, I think another team will; but Gaines is a gamble given his injury history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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