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7 minutes ago, John from Hemet said:

He sucks?

 

Why is it if a player is not top 5 at his position he "sucks"

 

In some people's world a player is either great or sucks with no room for nuanced or balanced evaluations.  No credible person would look at Cousins body of work and arrive at a conclusion that he sucks. 

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13 minutes ago, T-Bomb said:

 

But he sucks...  What good is it if the "best QB available" isn't good enough, you go ahead and pay him stupid money anyways???

 

explain how he sucks

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4 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

I see keenam making average bridge QB money- roughly $17-$18 million per year

 

Osweiler got that. 

I think Keenum says "ahem...I showed I can actually PLAY QB"

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18 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Wouldn't you expect a "top 10" QB to have a winning record after 3+ years on a team that wasn't a bottom feeder?  Stats are nice, but for some reason, they don't win a lot of games with his as their QB.  They got worse.

 

 

 

Stafford. Three appearances in playoffs in 9 seasons.

Ryan 3-8 in the playoffs. 

Brees missed playoffs three straight years.  

 

A lot goes into a team's record. Bad qbs rarely are top 10 three years running. 

 

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A QB like Cousins will get absolutely killed behind this O-line... I like Cousins, but we are not a good fit for his style of play... He'll either be on his back the whole time, or throwing picks.... More and more, I'm leaning towards Joe Webb!  -Is he anywhere near as risky as Peterman???

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6 hours ago, #34fan said:

A QB like Cousins will get absolutely killed behind this O-line... I like Cousins, but we are not a good fit for his style of play... He'll either be on his back the whole time, or throwing picks.... More and more, I'm leaning towards Joe Webb!  -Is he anywhere near as risky as Peterman???

I doubt that Cousins will hold the ball as long as Tyrod Taylor did in 2017 at 3.01 seconds on average. 

 

As for the line, all the Bills need to do is finally upgrade that right tackle position and they will instantly improve the lines entire grade. They could use a new RG and added depth all over the line. 

 

Dunno why Bills fans are so enamored with Peterman who was a 5th round pick... anyone else recall Brian Brohm? He was a second-round pick and he did squat. 

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10 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

I doubt that Cousins will hold the ball as long as Tyrod Taylor did in 2017 at 3.01 seconds on average. 

 

As for the line, all the Bills need to do is finally upgrade that right tackle position and they will instantly improve the lines entire grade. They could use a new RG and added depth all over the line. 

 

Dunno why Bills fans are so enamored with Peterman who was a 5th round pick... anyone else recall Brian Brohm? He was a second-round pick and he did squat. 

 

Like I said, I like Cousins... However, our situation at C, and RT aren't Ideal... We also need to upgrade TE as well...To me, Peterman offers a glimmer of hope that we'll be moving on from Tyrod... Plus I truly believe Nate will be good one day if he sticks with it... At the moment tho, he is not... I'd start Joe Webb over Nate if I had to.

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26 minutes ago, #34fan said:

 

Like I said, I like Cousins... However, our situation at C, and RT aren't Ideal... We also need to upgrade TE as well...To me, Peterman offers a glimmer of hope that we'll be moving on from Tyrod... Plus I truly believe Nate will be good one day if he sticks with it... At the moment tho, he is not... I'd start Joe Webb over Nate if I had to.

Joe Webb....seriously?

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On February 12, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

Yeah I’d hate to land the best QB available. That would totally suck

 

The fact that you're the "best QB available" doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna be a great QB worth the money. He's definitely NOT worth the money he's gonna demand/get.

 

Some people said that Geno Smith was the "best QB available" in the 2013 draft. What does that mean?

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37 minutes ago, nucci said:

Joe Webb....seriously?

 

Over Peterman? -Right this minute?.. Yup.

Nate's going to be good, but I f I had to win a game today, I wouldn't start him.

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24 minutes ago, QuoteTheRaven83 said:

 

The fact that you're the "best QB available" doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna be a great QB worth the money. He's definitely NOT worth the money he's gonna demand/get.

 

Some people said that Geno Smith was the "best QB available" in the 2013 draft. What does that mean?

I also said in this thread that he’s probably not worth the money that he’s going to get. However we are in the market for a QB so I hope to get the best QB available. I don’t want to break the bank for Cousins, but if we made that move that would show me that Beane wants to win and win now

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3 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

I also said in this thread that he’s probably not worth the money that he’s going to get. However we are in the market for a QB so I hope to get the best QB available. I don’t want to break the bank for Cousins, but if we made that move that would show me that Beane wants to win and win now

 

Beane and McDermott have already said that we're building through the draft. Hence "Trust the Process"

 

Trusting the process doesn't mean overpaying an average QB TONS of money to get us nowhere.

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20 minutes ago, #34fan said:

 

Over Peterman? -Right this minute?.. Yup.

Nate's going to be good, but I f I had to win a game today, I wouldn't start him.

ok, didn't see the part about Peterman....I would like both replaced

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4 minutes ago, QuoteTheRaven83 said:

 

Beane and McDermott have already said that we're building through the draft. Hence "Trust the Process"

 

Trusting the process doesn't mean overpaying an average QB TONS of money to get us nowhere.

Does it mean to trade all of our draft assets for a QB only based on potential? My first choice would be to call up philly and see if foles is available. If he isn’t then I would be in the market for a QB in free agency. Cousins is the best QB on the market

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On 2/12/2018 at 9:38 AM, CaptnCoke11 said:

People don’t realize in 4/5 years the deal Cousins signs this offseason will a bargain.  

 

That, and it will be in his prime years. 

 

I don't understand why people wouldn't want the Bills to spend for a proven QB. Having one of those gives your team a real chance to compete for a championship, year in, year out. Same thing with the potential for the Bills to give up a huge ransom to move up in the draft for a QB (even though the player is not proven).

 

Personally, I'd prefer to bring in Cousins and save those picks. It would be a more reasonable, and much quicker path to success than starting a rookie, and building the roster with less draft picks. This team isn't that far off, and those extra picks will not only fill holes, but do so on rookie contracts, so spending for a QB is very manageable right now.

 

You get what you pay for, and I couldn't care less if the Bills give him $30 mil per year. It's not my money, and the cap will go up. But it is my time and money spent on being a fan, and I'm tired of floating around .500 .

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13 minutes ago, QuoteTheRaven83 said:

 

Beane and McDermott have already said that we're building through the draft. Hence "Trust the Process"

 

Trusting the process doesn't mean overpaying an average QB TONS of money to get us nowhere.

And also, Cousins was the 12th ranked QB last year which makes him better than average. Taylor was the 22nd ranked QB so I think that would be a substantial upgrade. Cousins also didn’t have much of a running game in Washington, so shady would definitely help him out quite a bit. At the end of the day I’ll be on board with any decision the front office makes with the exception of keeping Tyrod 

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2 hours ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said:

 

That, and it will be in his prime years. 

 

I don't understand why people wouldn't want the Bills to spend for a proven QB. Having one of those gives your team a real chance to compete for a championship, year in, year out. Same thing with the potential for the Bills to give up a huge ransom to move up in the draft for a QB (even though the player is not proven).

 

Personally, I'd prefer to bring in Cousins and save those picks. It would be a more reasonable, and much quicker path to success than starting a rookie, and building the roster with less draft picks. This team isn't that far off, and those extra picks will not only fill holes, but do so on rookie contracts, so spending for a QB is very manageable right now.

 

You get what you pay for, and I couldn't care less if the Bills give him $30 mil per year. It's not my money, and the cap will go up. But it is my time and money spent on being a fan, and I'm tired of floating around .500 .

THIS! 

Cousins has done something Tyrod dreams about and that is 11 game winning drives in the 4th quarter since 2015. He is also in the top 5 in completion percentage and passing yards since 2015. 

 

Signing Cousins for 30 mill per would limit the free agent deals but this regime has stated they want to build thru the draft and with signing Cousins they could do just that with two firsts, two seconds and a third all on players to make this team better this year! 

 

"IF" the Bills are smart enough to sign Cousins it makes them an instant serious division rival for the Patriots and a super bowl contender.  Why even think about drafting a "maybe" at QB who may or may not develop into a franchise QB when you have one sitting right there. This is McDs Peyton Manning moment!

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On 2/12/2018 at 9:12 AM, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

Yeah I’d hate to land the best QB available. That would totally suck

Getting yet another mediocre castoff QB to go along with Johnson, Flutie, Bledsoe, Holcomb, Fitzpatrick, Orton, Taylor and every other castoff savior that we've signed would be the last straw for many fans that have been following this franchise for a long time. How many times can you make the same mistake of not drafting a top QB, over and over and over and have fans still supporting the idea?

8 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

Does it mean to trade all of our draft assets for a QB only based on potential? My first choice would be to call up philly and see if foles is available. If he isn’t then I would be in the market for a QB in free agency. Cousins is the best QB on the market

Seems like you're a instant gratification guy, bad idea. What team ever gets good by doing this? In all my yearscan think of one, the Saints.

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1 hour ago, greeneblitz said:

Getting yet another mediocre castoff QB to go along with Johnson, Flutie, Bledsoe, Holcomb, Fitzpatrick, Orton, Taylor and every other castoff savior that we've signed would be the last straw for many fans that have been following this franchise for a long time. How many times can you make the same mistake of not drafting a top QB, over and over and over and have fans still supporting the idea?

Seems like you're a instant gratification guy, bad idea. What team ever gets good by doing this? In all my yearscan think of one, the Saints.

Drafting QBs doesn’t always work either. Look at the Browns. Seems like you’re a guy that likes to argue. I’m not opposed to drafting a QB. I’m opposed to selling the farm for a guy based on potential. Look at what the redskins gave up for RG III

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3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

 

Cards don’t have the cap space for Cousins.  No shot.

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On 2/14/2018 at 4:07 PM, Nihilarian said:

THIS! 

Cousins has done something Tyrod dreams about and that is 11 game winning drives in the 4th quarter since 2015. He is also in the top 5 in completion percentage and passing yards since 2015. 

 

Signing Cousins for 30 mill per would limit the free agent deals but this regime has stated they want to build thru the draft and with signing Cousins they could do just that with two firsts, two seconds and a third all on players to make this team better this year! 

 

"IF" the Bills are smart enough to sign Cousins it makes them an instant serious division rival for the Patriots and a super bowl contender.  Why even think about drafting a "maybe" at QB who may or may not develop into a franchise QB when you have one sitting right there. This is McDs Peyton Manning moment!

and they really don't need to do a lot as far as filling holes in fa. i'd like to keep gaines, get a vet rt, maybe someone for the dline and possibly a deep threat wr. for the ones we have, i believe they are mostly on one year deals anyway and i think we could retain most keeping it that way.

 

it's awful hard to argue against having cousins. i think buffalo would be a great move for him and his family...vs. az. denver, cle. and especially n.y.c.

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