IgotBILLStopay Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) To decide whether to release players under contract, we need to weigh the cap savings against what we believe they are worth. cap savings are just the difference between their cap hit and the dead cap (of course sometime the dead cap is a multi-year number - so the exact cap savings for 2018 may be slightly different). Here are the cap savings numbers for the Bills players (I took the base numbers from Spotrac and just calculated the cap savings). I also adjusted Wood's numbers to reflect his retirement - so Bills have a dead cap of 2 yrs pro-rated signing bonus and save a little more than 1 million due to his retirement. We have about 30 mill in cap space at present. ACTIVE PLAYERS (52) DEAD CAP CAP HIT CAP Savings Tyrod Taylor ($8,640,000) $18,080,000 $9,440,000 Cordy Glenn ($11,100,000) $14,450,000 $3,350,000 Jerry Hughes ($5,800,000) $10,400,000 $4,600,000 Charles Clay ($9,000,000) $9,000,000 $0 LeSean McCoy ($5,250,000) $8,950,000 $3,700,000 Eric Wood ($4,333,334) - - Kelvin Benjamin - $8,459,000 $8,459,000 Richie Incognito ($1,150,000) $7,575,000 $6,425,000 Micah Hyde ($6,400,000) $6,800,000 $400,000 Jordan Poyer ($3,625,000) $3,875,000 $250,000 Lorenzo Alexander ($850,000) $3,600,000 $2,750,000 Steven Hauschka ($2,000,000) $3,000,000 $1,000,000 Shaq Lawson ($6,073,942) $2,803,356 ($3,270,586) Ryan Groy ($1,000,000) $2,500,000 $1,500,000 Tre'Davious White ($6,415,303) $2,293,434 ($4,121,869) Jordan Mills ($200,000) $2,150,000 $1,950,000 John Miller ($170,030) $2,075,030 $1,905,000 Patrick DiMarco ($1,500,000) $2,050,000 $550,000 Andre Holmes ($1,100,000) $1,750,000 $650,000 Zay Jones ($3,076,264) $1,540,870 ($1,535,394) Vladimir Ducasse ($166,668) $1,533,333 $1,366,665 Colton Schmidt ($300,000) $1,450,000 $1,150,000 Ryan Davis ($50,000) $1,275,000 $1,225,000 Dion Dawkins ($1,541,914) $950,736 ($591,178) Adolphus Washington ($377,148) $848,574 $471,426 Rod Streater - $790,000 $790,000 Khari Lee - $705,000 $705,000 Quan Bray - $630,000 $630,000 Dean Marlowe - $630,000 $630,000 L.J. McCray - $630,000 $630,000 Kelcie McCray - $630,000 $630,000 Marcus Murphy - $630,000 $630,000 Matt Milano ($196,130) $620,376 $424,246 Nathan Peterman ($179,625) $614,874 $435,249 Tanner Vallejo ($115,350) $593,449 $478,099 Breon Borders - $555,000 $555,000 Nordly Capi - $555,000 $555,000 Reid Ferguson - $555,000 $555,000 Deon Lacey - $555,000 $555,000 Conor McDermott - $555,000 $555,000 Brandon Reilly - $555,000 $555,000 De'Ondre Wesley - $555,000 $555,000 Keith Towbridge ($5,000) $482,500 $477,500 Cory Carter - $480,000 $480,000 Jason Croom - $480,000 $480,000 Malachi Dupre - $480,000 $480,000 Aaron Green - $480,000 $480,000 Rickey Hatley - $480,000 $480,000 Josh James - $480,000 $480,000 Marquavius Lewis - $480,000 $480,000 Adam Redmond - $480,000 $480,000 Xavier Woodson-Luster - $480,000 $480,000 There are some obvious no-brainers. If the cap savings are negative, you trade a player and never release him unless you desperately need that roster spot. So White, Lawson, Jones and Dawkins will never be released. Similarly Clay is worth more than zero and Shady is clearly worth 3.7 million. Also Hauschka, Poyer, Hyde, MIlano, Washington, Peterman are all no-brainers to keep. Even Glenn at 3.35 mill might be worth keeping. The big questions are (with my thoughts in parentheses): Tyrod - worth 9.4 million to not release? (NO) Hughes - 4.6 mill (Yes) Benjamin - 8.459 mill (Yes) Ritchie - 6.425 (Maybe) - this was a surprise to me I did not realize cap savings were this huge Groy - 1.5 mill (Yes) MIlls - 1.95 mill (Yes) MIller - 1.905 mill (Yes) Patrick Demarco - 550K (yes because the savings are so less for releasing) Holmes - 650K (Yes) Ducasse - 1.37 mill (Yes) Schmidt - 1.15 mill (yes) Davis - 1.225 (Yes) Streator - 790 K (Yes) Edited February 7, 2018 by IgotBILLStopay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I'm no expert on cap stuff, but I am interested to see what they do with Eric Wood. They clearly have a card up.their sleeve and we will se what that is. Also, I know he has no dead cap hit, but I would be absolutely shocked if they let Benjamin go after just trading a 3rd for him midseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Shotgunner said: I'm no expert on cap stuff, but I am interested to see what they do with Eric Wood. They clearly have a card up.their sleeve and we will se what that is. Also, I know he has no dead cap hit, but I would be absolutely shocked if they let Benjamin go after just trading a 3rd for him midseason. Yeah - considering we don't exactly have a #1 WR or RZ target waiting in the wings, i think he sticks. Plus its fully guaranteed for injury, so he'd have to pass a physical in March to even release him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Good grief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: To decide whether to release players under contract, we need to weigh the cap savings against what we believe they are worth. we also have to decide if they are good players as well, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Good work on this. I would cut Holmes because he's trash as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 Big question for the Bills: To cut Incognito or not Huge cap savings but equally crucial player Maybe solution will be to ask him to rework the deal. so save about 3 mill in cap this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 You do know that there at least 2 active cap threads no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 2 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Big question for the Bills: To cut Incognito or not Huge cap savings but equally crucial player Maybe solution will be to ask him to rework the deal. so save about 3 mill in cap this year If you cut Incognito, who's your LG? Another career backup like Ducasse impersonating a starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 On 2/7/2018 at 10:43 AM, dneveu said: Yeah - considering we don't exactly have a #1 WR or RZ target waiting in the wings, i think he sticks. Plus its fully guaranteed for injury, so he'd have to pass a physical in March to even release him. Not to mention he was hurt last year & came in late so he didn't really know the offense so it would be a total waste of the draft pick & the dead cap money they would have to pay to get rid of him & i believe when healthy he will be a great red zone threat if we can get a QB that will throw to him !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 On 2/7/2018 at 1:10 PM, nucci said: we also have to decide if they are good players as well, correct? ...do the Taylor numbers account for paying the $6 mil roster bonus?............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...do the Taylor numbers account for paying the $6 mil roster bonus?............. No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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