boyst Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 21 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: The Senate committee is the swampiest on the Hill. Nothing will come from their investigation. There's a reason I focus on Horowitz, Grassley, Nunes and Graham. Yes, and oddly we are supposed to be upset that it was leaked more than what was leaked. We are to be upset someone gave us info that said the election was rigged, not that Obama and co rigged it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 A Deep Dive into Aluminum and Grassley's latest letter to State and DHS: https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-02-28 CEG to State +DHS (Deripaska visa records).pdf Deripaska - whose ties to organized crime (Russian mob) prevented him from being able to attain a visa - hired Waldman to magically obtain a diplomatic passport. Waldman, we know from Warner's texts, also knows Steele. But perhaps the most fascinating twist is Waldman - aka Endeavor Group - revealed in FARA paperwork that he would be working with Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov. Meaning, once again we see REAL Russian collusion, though it's not with Trump. It's with the Senate committee head Mark Warner. Reminder, Warner made $6 million from Russian own Yandex in 2012: And, here's a clip of the Warner texts that prompted Grassley's questions: Remember the rule: Grassley isn't asking questions he doesn't already have the answers to in these letters. He has the evidence already, this is an attempt to pin them down. But wait, there's more! Viktor Vekselberg is another Russian oligarch you're likely to hear about soon. Vekselberg's estimated worth is $16b while Deripaska clocks in at $7b. Vekselberg was a Deripaska rival whose company SUAL was competing with Deripaska's RUSAL - both aluminium producers. How they became rivals is a long, long story worth digging into - but before they fell out, the two oligarchs merged their companies in 2007 along with a third corporate partner: GLENCORE, a Marc Rich company. Yes, the SAME Marc Rich who was pardoned by Clinton on his last day and the same company where Dan Gertler was working before he was included in 45's EO of 12/21/17 ( https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/ ). In 2008 the economy melted down and suddenly Deripaska and Vekselberg required a loan from a Putin bank to keep RUSAL in Russian hands. Vekselberg wanted out. Deripaska controlled board decisions and had suspended all dividend payments. Deripaska was also looking for a way out. He made an audacious bid to buy the German car company Opel in 2008/2009. https://www.reuters.com/article/retire-us-opel-russia-deripaska/oleg-deripaska-passenger-on-russias-opel-journey-idUSTRE5515FA20090602 This was a sale that Germany's Merkel and Putin also wanted to see happen and which Deripaska paid BIG MONEY to the Clinton Foundation to assure its safe passage... https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/09/john-helmer-did-hillary-clinton-take-money-from-russia-oligarch-oleg-deripaska-for-a-favor-in-the-general-motors-opel-deal.html But Clinton blocked the sale. Why? Because at the same time, the Clintons were also being paid by someone else to oppose the deal. Someone who wanted to destroy Oleg Deripaska: Victor Vekselberg. How? It's complicated but millions of dollars were diverted from the Russian funds provided by Rusnano, a Putin owned company, which ended up in a bank account controlled by the Clinton Foundation. Those funds had been allocated to the Skolvoko project... which was controlled by? None other than Viktor Vekselberg. He paid the Clitnons to damage Deripaska. That's how far the Clinton circle had mired themselves in Putin's Russia. Don't believe it? Just after Uranium One went through CFIUS in 2011, an American joins the board of a small energy company called Joule Unlimited. Two months after he joined, Putin poured some $35 million into the company. Happy days! Again the funds came from Rusnano - a Russian government investment fund started in 2007 by Putin himself. Who was the American citizen? This "man": Who do we also know were working for Putin during this time period in 2011? Why, none other than Paul Manafort and Tony Podesta. Who is investigating these two right now? Are you starting to see what's really happening behind the scenes, folks? Ignore the noise and distraction. Focus on what's REALLY going on. Mueller is uncovering a scandal the likes of which very few people can comprehend. The Clintons were being paid by Putin himself. THAT'S what's going to come out in the wash. Trump (imo) tasked Mueller with perhaps the most important investigation in US history. The money laundering scheme alone are vastly complex and all point back in one direction: This is why Trump is targeting Putin's oligarchs and targeting aluminium. It's all connected. He's going to squeeze Putin hard. As for the Clintons and Podestas? Their punishment will be public and epic to assure nothing like this ever happens again. This is a good article (from a site I usually ignore) that supplements this post nicely: https://m.theepochtimes.com/manafort-case-may-lead-back-to-podesta-brothers-russian-uranium-and-muellers-role-as-fbi-chief_2345750.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/4/christopher-steele-russia-dossier-writer-same-sour/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 No wonder Trump just announced a 25% tariff on Steele. He should get 25 years in Leavenworth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) On 1/30/2018 at 1:22 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: He's probably the most politically adept person I've ever seen. He took on, and soundly defeated, two political Dynasties, both major political parties, and the Chicago political machine whike the election was being rigged against him. Then survived a coup attempt complete with massive disinformation campaign waged by our own intelligence agencies using a complicit media; and mastered a new medium of communicating directly with the public to his direct advantage even though the owners of that medium were also complicit in the deception. it's been incredible to watch. You all know my history here in regards to my positions on the President, but I am now revising those positions to say the following: Donald Trump seems to be exactly the President we needed in these times. I don't believe he was a great man at the time he entered into office, but he certainly seems to be answering History's bell, and if he continues on this arch may finish in the pantheon of leadership standing shoulder to shoulder with men like Washington. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... ahhhh. Ha. There is A LOT of comedy in this thread. It is... spectacular. I have to give Trump some credit. This whole Nunes/Horwitz/McCabe/Comey/Deep State conspiracy is proof that he can literally sell a sh*t-sandwich to his base and they will eat it up and ask for more. Then again, why only give Trump the credit? That same base is regularly swindled by all sorts of nihilistic merchants. Don't mind me. Keep heading down this road, Rhino!! Don't worry if it looks like you're heading off a cliff, that's what they want you to think — it's actually an invisible bridge that only special you can see! Art of War! Keep going!! lolllll Edited March 5, 2018 by LA Grant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, LA Grant said: HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... ahhhh. Ha. There is A LOT of comedy in this thread. It is... spectacular. I have to give Trump some credit. This whole Nunes/Horwitz/McCabe/Comey/Deep State conspiracy is proof that he can literally sell a sh*t-sandwich to his base and they will eat it up and ask for more. Then again, why only give Trump the credit? That same base is regularly swindled by all sorts of nihilistic merchants. Don't mind me. Keep heading down this road, Rhino!! Don't worry if it looks like you're heading off a cliff, that's what they want you to think — it's actually an invisible bridge that only special you can see! Art of War! Keep going!! lolllll Another one bites the dust. Edited March 5, 2018 by OJABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 hours ago, LA Grant said: HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... ahhhh. Ha. There is A LOT of comedy in this thread. It is... spectacular. I have to give Trump some credit. This whole Nunes/Horwitz/McCabe/Comey/Deep State conspiracy is proof that he can literally sell a sh*t-sandwich to his base and they will eat it up and ask for more. Then again, why only give Trump the credit? That same base is regularly swindled by all sorts of nihilistic merchants. Don't mind me. Keep heading down this road, Rhino!! Don't worry if it looks like you're heading off a cliff, that's what they want you to think — it's actually an invisible bridge that only special you can see! Art of War! Keep going!! lolllll And his supporters on here would be arguing that sh it sandwiches are healthy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 5 hours ago, LA Grant said: HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... ahhhh. Ha. There is A LOT of comedy in this thread. It is... spectacular. I have to give Trump some credit. This whole Nunes/Horwitz/McCabe/Comey/Deep State conspiracy is proof that he can literally sell a sh*t-sandwich to his base and they will eat it up and ask for more. Then again, why only give Trump the credit? That same base is regularly swindled by all sorts of nihilistic merchants. Don't mind me. Keep heading down this road, Rhino!! Don't worry if it looks like you're heading off a cliff, that's what they want you to think — it's actually an invisible bridge that only special you can see! Art of War! Keep going!! lolllll Let's play for a minute: I am open to the possibility that DR is off base (though I do find the evidence he has been presenting to be compelling, and I'm not at all sure why you find it so hard to believe that these same players would attempt to rig a federal election given the common knowledge that they rigged their own primary). I've been curious what the leftists will do once the indictments start rolling out if he is right. That sea level change would be Earth shattering for people holding your political leanings. The Democratic Party would be decimated. Probably disbanded, as the brand would be irretrievably damaged. The big government advocates would have lost their argument for around another 100 years. How would you advocate for it? "Government just big enough to undermine free and fair elections?" Never mind the implication for gun control efforts. Those would all be completely dead on arrival, and the messengers shot. (figuratively, of course) You can't make a gun control argument against the need to defend yourself against a tyrannical government in the wake of a palace coup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 he's obviously stoned and you are trying to reason with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 6 hours ago, LA Grant said: I have to give Trump some credit. This whole Nunes/Horwitz/McCabe/Comey/Deep State conspiracy is proof that he can literally sell a sh*t-sandwich to his base and they will eat it up and ask for more. Then again, why only give Trump the credit? That same base is regularly swindled by all sorts of nihilistic merchants. Don't mind me. Keep heading down this road, Rhino!! Don't worry if it looks like you're heading off a cliff, that's what they want you to think — it's actually an invisible bridge that only special you can see! Art of War! Keep going!! lolllll Drive by pot shot completely devoid of substance. If it's such a **** sandwich I'm sure you can easily disprove my theory with real evidence and facts, right? I've never been one to run from a challenge, so by all means challenge me and my theory. Let's hear what evidence and facts make you confident enough that my theory is wrong to laugh and post this. You do have evidence right? You're not just parroting partisan talking points because you've sold your own free thinking out to the partisan media, surely. So let's have it. Explain to me where my theory falters. I'll wait... And as we wait, ask yourself this: What does the fool do when he hears the truth? He laughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Drive by pot shot completely devoid of substance. Stop talking about THE MEMO that way! It was serious intelligence work! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Drive by pot shot completely devoid of substance. If it's such a **** sandwich I'm sure you can easily disprove my theory with real evidence and facts, right? I've never been one to run from a challenge, so by all means challenge me and my theory. Let's hear what evidence and facts make you confident enough that my theory is wrong to laugh and post this. You do have evidence right? You're not just parroting partisan talking points because you've sold your own free thinking out to the partisan media, surely. So let's have it. Explain to me where my theory falters. I'll wait... And as we wait, ask yourself this: What does the fool do when he hears the truth? He laughs. Dissect this when you're ready https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Someone's not paying attention. DR has shared information and analysis about Mr Steele multiple times. This New Yorker magazine article adds nothing ? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, B-Man said: Someone's not paying attention. DR has shared information and analysis about Mr Steele multiple times. This New Yorker magazine article adds nothing ? . It adds plenty that has yet to be reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, garybusey said: It adds plenty that has yet to be reported. Such as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 41 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Drive by pot shot completely devoid of substance. If it's such a **** sandwich I'm sure you can easily disprove my theory with real evidence and facts, right? I've never been one to run from a challenge, so by all means challenge me and my theory. Let's hear what evidence and facts make you confident enough that my theory is wrong to laugh and post this. You do have evidence right? You're not just parroting partisan talking points because you've sold your own free thinking out to the partisan media, surely. So let's have it. Explain to me where my theory falters. I'll wait... And as we wait, ask yourself this: What does the fool do when he hears the truth? He laughs. They don't have facts, they have "feelings". They get a tingle up their leg that let's them know when the truth is being told. They're special like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Drive by pot shot completely devoid of substance. If it's such a **** sandwich I'm sure you can easily disprove my theory with real evidence and facts, right? I've never been one to run from a challenge, so by all means challenge me and my theory. Let's hear what evidence and facts make you confident enough that my theory is wrong to laugh and post this. You do have evidence right? You're not just parroting partisan talking points because you've sold your own free thinking out to the partisan media, surely. So let's have it. Explain to me where my theory falters. I'll wait... And as we wait, ask yourself this: What does the fool do when he hears the truth? He laughs. via Imgflip Meme Generator Edited March 5, 2018 by Boyst62 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, garybusey said: It adds plenty that has yet to be reported. Does it, in any way, address the fact that Steele never set foot inside Russia during the compilation of the dossier? Or does it address in anyway that the entire dossier was constructed based on third party hearsay rather than first hand witness testimony? If not, then it's irrelevant to the discussion. Why? Because we know, from Steele's own court testimony, that the two points outlined above happened. He never went to Russia. He never spoke with primary sources. He took down stories told to him by Russian agents which THEY claim to have over heard. That's the key point. And it cuts through all the partisan noise on this topic. For a FISA warrant to be approved, the evidence submitted to the court must be verified. Steele's background or track record is irrelevant in terms of determining whether the evidence he collected meets that standard because he didn't witness anything. Thus, the dossier clearly does not meet this standard. The FBI and DOJ knew this, and hid it from the court - as well as neglecting to inform the court they fired Steele for lying to them about talking with the press - something he confirmed in his UK testimony last year. So, Steele could be James Bond with a flawless record. He could be Jesus himself - and it would not change the weight of the dossier one bit in terms of the eyes of the court. That's the reality. It's unable to be denied by partisan bickering. That standard was never met by Steele's dossier, and we know from McCabe's testimony that without the dossier there would be no FISA. That's the ballgame, Gary. There's no arguing against that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 53 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Stop talking about THE MEMO that way! It was serious intelligence work! Please never use the word intelligence again. It just hurts seeing you use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 Worth checking out this interview in full (three parts): Pt. 1: Pt. II Pt. III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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