JPP Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: This is why you switch now and see if it is Dennisons play calling over the next 4 weeks. my bad....mis spell.....meant to say good as gone....not good...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, JPP said: my bad....mis spell.....meant to say good as gone....not good...lol I dont korect anyone’s spelling (unless they are known perfectionists) its not hard to get the meaning of the message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I dont korect anyone’s spelling (unless they are known perfectionists) its not hard to get the meaning of the message brain fried from work today....but i think at this point and i mentioned it the other day...just rotate peterman/webb.....throw crap at the wall without over analyzing it and see what sticks....imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I think Tyrod is gone. That's pretty clear. Dennison I think comes back with a rookie QB and a vet QB. I also think we bring in Mike McCoy as a "passing game consultant" or some such title. If after 4-6 weeks the offense isn't better Dennison would be canned then and McCoy promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, JPP said: brain fried from work today....but i think at this point and i mentioned it the other day...just rotate peterman/webb.....throw crap at the wall without over analyzing it and see what sticks....imo Exactly. Keep us entertained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, JPP said: brain fried from work today....but i think at this point and i mentioned it the other day...just rotate peterman/webb.....throw crap at the wall without over analyzing it and see what sticks....imo 4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Exactly. Keep us entertained. Bills would be better off going and signing Brad Kaaya off of Detroit's practice squad and seeing if he can dink and dunk accurately enough to move chains. Or go after Teddy Bridgewater if they intend to keep Dennison as the OC. God help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Both, if it were up to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: McDermott might want to go back and review a few of the games we lost where the defense played well enough to give them a shot to win, starting with the Carolina and Cincy games. That could make the decision easier. This is a good post. If the Bills were sitting at 8-4 right now like they should be would anyone ? Rico or TT? But we are sitting 6-6 and those 2 games fall squarely on TT's shoulders with 125 and 166 yards passing. I think we all knew the Carolina and Cincy game would come back to bite us in the ass. Edited December 5, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: I would love to see Ken Dorsey here as the OC. I believe in up and comers trying to make a name for themselves, delivering cutting edge stuff. Being creative and learning from what works in the league. plus he’s played the position! Dennison just seems like a guy who goes through the motions, has his stuff and that’s as far as it goes. Go get guys who are hungry. Yes that means coaches too. Dennison is boring. It could just be Tyrod though. If I was OC I wouldn’t have changed a single thing from the run game the past 2 years. Couldn't agree more. I want to see a young buck as our OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 All season has been a teeter-totter between the two. If you can single out one problem, get rid of both possible problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 I know that the anti-Tyrod sentiment here is growing but I'll throw this out... Rico would be easier to replace than Tyrod. Even Tyrod's limited skill-set is a rare commodity. There's just aren't enough good QBs in the world. So maybe McD fires Rico, hires McC and asks McC if he can make his offense work with Tyrod (and still draft a QB). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Just now, hondo in seattle said: I know that the anti-Tyrod sentiment here is growing but I'll throw this out... Rico would be easier to replace than Tyrod. Even Tyrod's limited skill-set is a rare commodity. There's just aren't enough good QBs in the world. So maybe McD fires Rico, hires McC and asks McC if he can make his offense work with Tyrod (and still draft a QB). Sure he would, but that does not address the elephant in the room. TT doesn't have what we neeed in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Sure he would, but that does not address the elephant in the room. TT doesn't have what we neeed in Buffalo. In a perfect world, we'd replace both TT and Rico. But given the difficulty of finding quality QBs, I wonder if another OC could build a workable offense around TT. Rico apparently needs not just a better QB - but a different kind of QB - to make his offense work. How long we'll we have to wait to find the right guy? When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Rico can't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 If we're drafting a qb I'd like an OC that has been a qb and or developed them. Or someone that has a scheme from this decade maybe a college oc or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 19 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Sure he would, but that does not address the elephant in the room. TT doesn't have what we neeed in Buffalo. There's maybe 4-5 QBs in the world that have what the fans think the Bills need at QB (Brady, Manning, Brees) Another way that Brady and the Pats have screwed over Bills fans is that because we have watched them for a very long time dominate, it's set the standard of what everyone expects in what's really needed so much higher that's it's very unlikely to be attained. How many thought Wentz and Goff wouldn't be franchise guys when they were drafted, Watson would have been passed on by some. Every draft you could go back to and see people say that certain qbs weren't good enough and that we would have to wait til next year til someone else was available as the top guy. There was a time when Kiser was someone people were saying would be the top QB picked on this last draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 On 12/4/2017 at 6:10 AM, Maynard said: They both should be gone, but I’m not sure McD will get rid of Rico after one year. Head Coaches seem to be given 2-3 years to turn things around. McD has already had one year. He can't waste another. If he's not confident in his OC, he needs to replace Dennison now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Tyrod for sure. Dennison is 50/50. They obviously have a mold/style in mind in the offense they want to run in that Mike McCoy, Greg Olson, Brad Childress, and Rick Dennison all run a similar base offense. If they can back-channel Mike McCoy now that he is fired and McDermott convinces him to come here, I think they fire Dennison. However, if I'm Mike McCoy, I am waiting to see who else gets fired and what jobs come open because he could potentially be looking at the following options based on who is getting fired as HCs and OCs: Bears OC - gets to coach a young, talented QB in Trubisky Raiders OC - they might be firing Todd Downing after one season; gets to coach Carr; gets to coach against both the Chargers and Broncos Browns OC - who knows what is happening here, but if they clean house, he's looking at coaching a #1 ovr QB with a big money investments in the OL, and a potential star WR. Colts OC- Andrew Luck Giants OC - same as Browns but without the solid OL Bucs OC - Jamies Winston, Mike Evans Bills OC - no QB and we are not guaranteed getting a top QB in this draft when McCoy has to decide on a job. And to those saying that he took the Denver job with no QBs there - Lynch was a 1st round pick last year, Semien looked competent last year, and everyone thought Romo was going there. I just don't see him or anyone taking this job with no solid answer/prospect at the QB position. Greg Olson took a QB coach job on the Rams staff rather than come to Buffalo as OC. It is obvious that nothing is going to happen with this offense until there is some clarity on the QB position, which leads me to believe that Dennison will be here another year as he runs the style of offense that McDermott wants. I don't particularly think that McDermott is tied to Dennison, but at the moment there might not be any better option. Long story short: Get a QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: In a perfect world, we'd replace both TT and Rico. But given the difficulty of finding quality QBs, I wonder if another OC could build a workable offense around TT. Rico apparently needs not just a better QB - but a different kind of QB - to make his offense work. How long we'll we have to wait to find the right guy? When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Rico can't do that. In a perfect world. Yes. I gave up all semblance of trying to believe in Taylor after the failed to lead the Bills to a win in Jersey. I'm done with him. Finito. McD wants his team his way. TT does not fit. Rico has tries to adjust to TT and it got worse in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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