stevestojan Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Steve-O, I've been ignoring you for some time, since I often supported you when you were under attack, only to see you turn your particular brand of venom my way. Fool I was... 265878[/snapback] I turned my "venom" your way because you are saying cats are better than dogs because dogs "maul" and attack. That's just insane. That's like saying "I don't like ANY people because they MURDER other people". I'm betting the number of dogs who have mauled a person to the total number of dogs owned is about the same as number of murderers to number of US citizens. And even if not, its not good to blanket all dogs because a few were mistreated and went bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 I turned my "venom" your way because you are saying cats are better than dogs because dogs "maul" and attack. That's just insane. That's like saying "I don't like ANY people because they MURDER other people". I'm betting the number of dogs who have mauled a person to the total number of dogs owned is about the same as number of murderers to number of US citizens. And even if not, its not good to blanket all dogs because a few were mistreated and went bad. 265914[/snapback] Well, after typing this, I read Darin's last post, and if his numbers are accurate, my example was even better that I thought. Stuckincincy, you REALLY need to start disliking humans - they are way worse than the dogs you fear so much . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Kay Stephenson or joe dufek. 265912[/snapback] Uh, Kay Stephenson played for the BILLS in the late 60s and Dufek in the early to mid-80s. Points for effort, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 since I've been a Bills fan I would say Todd Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 There were over 3000 accidental drownings in the US in 2003. There were fewer than 30 dog bite fatalities. There are an estimated 52,000,000 dogs in the US. Give me a break. You planning on demonizing standing bodies of water later? The majority of dog bites occur because children aren't taught basic safety for dogs by their overprotective parents. Simple rules like never approaching a strange dog, staying off private property, turning sideways and not looking directly at a barking dog, etc. Go cats. 265879[/snapback] Go back to Square One. This started out by a once-again immature pogram against felines. For reasons that escape me, folks seem to get some sort of lump in their pants by some sort of unwarrented "I hate Cats" thing. I subscribe it to those who have little ability of inate thought and slavishly buy into mob mentality, lest they not be "in" or some sort of mental tic. Yes I fully understand training. But you must realize, the "first" bite of a rottweiler, doberman, bull etc can have catastrophic consequences. And in the last 3 months around here, that happened, and always, always, you hear the same excuses - "I had NO idea" or "it's a nice dog". I refuse to believe that folks who buy dangerous dogs do so because they are innocent and think what a nice companion they would be for the kiddies etc. A short search on the I-net for those who market such animals point out how powerful they are as a selling point, and then speak disclaimers such as "to the best on my knowledge, it is not a bad dog", "I have no prior knowledge of dangerous behavior" and so on. The simple fact is that many, if not most people that own these breeds do not take proper care..they leave them in yards with four-foot fences, totally unattended, instead of 8 foot fences or covered cages. That's what you do, right? No giggling if people move to the other side of the street when you walk doggie, right? They walk them down streets with those flimsy 15-foot cable leashes. Don't tell me that they are all scum-of-the earth people - they are otherwise good citizens. To me it comes down to this: Animals are what they are, animals. You can hope that they will always act well, but you can never be sure. I simply do not understand why someone would want to have something with such horrible potential. I appreciate the goodness in dogs, but I'm certain for every reference you could provide for a saving operation, I could find dozens of horrific outcomes. Let's say you and I are neighbors. Your doggie is behind the typical 4 or 6 foot fence. I sit on my porch, with a side-by side. But I'm a nice man. Will you trust me when I say that? Will you feel confident that I am well-trained? That I only do so because I am lover of the double-barreled shotgun, know what good the side-by-side has done, and being well-trained, will never take out-of-character action. Of course, I will get a pass if you provoke me, right? After all, it's about the love of my breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Go back to Square One. This started out by a once-again immature pogram against felines. For reasons that escape me, folks seem to get some sort of lump in their pants by some sort of unwarrented "I hate Cats" thing. I subscribe it to those who have little ability of inate thought and slavishly buy into mob mentality, lest they not be "in" or some sort of mental tic. Yes I fully understand training. But you must realize, the "first" bite of a rottweiler, doberman, bull etc can have catastrophic consequences. And in the last 3 months around here, that happened, and always, always, you hear the same excuses - "I had NO idea" or "it's a nice dog". I refuse to believe that folks who buy dangerous dogs do so because they are innocent and think what a nice companion they would be for the kiddies etc. A short search on the I-net for those who market such animals point out how powerful they are as a selling point, and then speak disclaimers such as "to the best on my knowledge, it is not a bad dog", "I have no prior knowledge of dangerous behavior" and so on. The simple fact is that many, if not most people that own these breeds do not take proper care..they leave them in yards with four-foot fences, totally unattended, instead of 8 foot fences or covered cages. That's what you do, right? No giggling if people move to the other side of the street when you walk doggie, right? They walk them down streets with those flimsy 15-foot cable leashes. Don't tell me that they are all scum-of-the earth people - they are otherwise good citizens. To me it comes down to this: Animals are what they are, animals. You can hope that they will always act well, but you can never be sure. I simply do not understand why someone would want to have something with such horrible potential. I appreciate the goodness in dogs, but I'm certain for every reference you could provide for a saving operation, I could find dozens of horrific outcomes. Let's say you and I are neighbors. Your doggie is behind the typical 4 or 6 foot fence. I sit on my porch, with a side-by side. But I'm a nice man. will you trust me when I say that? Will you feel confident that I am well-trained? That I only do so because I am lover of the double-barreled shotgun, know what good the side-by-side has done, and being well-trained, will never take out-of-character action. Of course, I will get a pass if you provoke me, right? After all, it's about the love of my breed. 265967[/snapback] Gee, I thought I was supposed to be the paranoid delusional one at this here amusement park. Thanks for easily taking the title with just one shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Gee, I thought I was supposed to be the paranoid delusional one at this here amusement park. Thanks for easily taking the title with just one shot. 265970[/snapback] AD...attempts at a popular variation of reductio ad absurdum does not become you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Darin, Darin, Darin...attempts at a popular variation of reductio ad absurdum does not become you. 265979[/snapback] I have no idea what a variation of reductio ad absurdum is, but it sounds like one of those things that does not foster a kinder, gentler TSW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 This thread is reaching threat level orange on the TBD-land security rating system... let's settle down boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 I have no idea what a variation of reductio ad absurdum is, but it sounds like one of those things that does not foster a kinder, gentler TSW. 265986[/snapback] You are right. I shall edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoho Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 This thread is reaching threat level orange on the TBD-land security rating system... let's settle down boys. 265992[/snapback] Let me try to summarize Marangi - sucks Darragh - blows Cats - litter Dogs - Bite and Save Armadillos- squish Wyche - sat the bench Darrin and Cincy - need to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 AD...attempts at a popular variation of reductio ad absurdum does not become you. 265979[/snapback] Any mirrors in your car on the roller coaster? Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Let me try to summarize Marangi - sucks Darragh - blows Cats - litter Dogs - Bite and Save Armadillos- squish Wyche - sat the bench Darrin and Cincy - need to stop. 266000[/snapback] Mack is King! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 In keeping with the kindler, gentler TBD, I will state that cats aren't all that bad. I mean, any animal that tastes that good deep fried with lo mein noodles and served with an egg roll can't be THAT bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Yes I fully understand training. But you must realize, the "first" bite of a rottweiler, doberman, bull etc can have catastrophic consequences. 265967[/snapback] I do think that says it all. Cats are inherently bad. The good news is they can't help it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet baboo Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 To me it comes down to this: Animals are what they are, animals. You can hope that they will always act well, but you can never be sure. I simply do not understand why someone would want to have something with such horrible potential. 265967[/snapback] it's not even training...if you treat your dog with love, your dog isn't going to attack anyone...i have 2 dogs that would probably be completely useless if someone broke into my home and attacked me...granted, they're both beagles, but they're the biggest softasses ever...you couldn't get them to attack someone if you wanted to...alot of my female friends have rottweilers and german shepherds...i'm sure they were bought partially for protection, but they gush on nonstop about how cute the dogs are...they've been coddled so much that they're seriously the softest, squishiest and friendliest dogs you could ever meet...you'd have to beat the dog over the head a few times to get it angry enough to attack you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 The 11th Commandment- Thou Shalt Not Offend Amendment XXIII - The Right of the Citizenry Not to be Offended 265626[/snapback] 11? 11? AAAHHH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 11? 11? AAAHHH! 266056[/snapback] Please don't eat Cincy's baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Dennis Shaw escapes this subject, only because of the efforts of the "Magician", Marlin Briscoe...I know a lot of posters didn't see Briscoe play. What a great athlete. 265660[/snapback] You are right on with that statement. Briscoe was absolutely amazing. So what did the Bills do, trade him to the Fins. I never did understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothar Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 This thread is on it's way to becoming a classic - dual conversations are great for those for those of us with ADD - note, I didn't say AD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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