Paulus Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I thought I'd seen some delusional posting here, but the Cake, it's Yours. We did not run Orton out of town. We enticed him back from retirement on the promise of "another shot at a playoff and a nice fat paycheck". It was no surprise that he continued his retirement plans after that season - he was clearly done with the "sacrifice your body to win games" schtick. The player who sabotaged Peterman's start is Peterman. The Chargers are at the top of the league for QB pressure and sacks. Bosa and Ingram can run wild against a good line, let alone a craptastic one missing its best player in Glenn. "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence" Tuel was the backup, EJ was the hoped-for franchise guy. Unless the backup plays lights-out, he doesn't keep the gig when the starter can play. Here's the stat lines, you tell me which one is EJ and which one is Tuel: 8-20 (40%) 80 yds 0 TD 1 INT 2 sk rating 31.2 11-20 (55%) 129 yds 0 TD 0 INT 2 sk rating 74.8 18-39 (46%) 229 yd 1 TD 2 INT 0 sk rating 52.2 22-39 (56%) 155 yd 1 TD 1 INT 3 sk rating 63.5 Gee it's sure clear to me who outplayed whom there (sar chasm <<<<=======). The "EJ Manuel worst QB ever" narrative here has long jumped the shark. Wow, I was joking. Sorry, if you were not able to pick up on that. I thought the gif and the fact I said I was joking would have given it away. That said, EJ is horrid and Tuel was not much worse (if worse than EJ at all). Peterman might have been sabotaged by TT loyalists. Who knows? Do you think the coaching staff isn't pissing off players? Trading all the talent and benching the starting QB? I mean, they literally let Bosa come in unblocked. No, I don't think race has anything to do with it, except for in the eyes of retarded or ignorant fans. Below is for real on Peterman? Was he sabotaged, purposefully? Does the Bills OL just suck that much? "He literally didn't bloce me" <--- my favorite part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Paulus said: Wow, I was joking. Sorry, if you were not able to pick up on that. I thought the gif and the fact I said I was joking would have given it away. That said, EJ is horrid and Tuel was not much worse (if worse than EJ at all). Peterman might have been sabotaged by TT loyalists. Who knows? Do you think the coaching staff isn't pissing off players? Trading all the talent and benching the starting QB? I mean, they literally let Bosa come in unblocked. No, I don't think race has anything to do with it, except for in the eyes of retarded or ignorant fans. Below is for real on Peterman? Was he sabotaged, purposefully? Does the Bills OL just suck that much? "He literally didn't bloce me" <--- my favorite part Jeebus Mills doesn't even try out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Jeebus Mills doesn't even try out there. Bosa might be pass rusher in league. Made Mills and Vlad look like high school players lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, Paulus said: Below is for real on Peterman? Was he sabotaged, purposefully? Does the Bills OL just suck that much? "He literally didn't bloce me" <--- my favorite part Mills? Yeah, he's that bad. I thought he did better last year with Miller instead of Ducasse next to him. I had to slow through that clip because it was usually Dawkins being the turnstile - yeah, he's that bad, too. Whatever his proclivities for wandering around farm fields in the buff, Kujo did a better job filling in for Glenn last year. Bills shoulda just bought him a membership to the American Naturist Society and let him go to it. I knew Bosa was good but Man, he's a Beast. But if you want to play OT in the NFL, you gotta be able to tame Beasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 17 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Mills? Yeah, he's that bad. I thought he did better last year with Miller instead of Ducasse next to him. I had to slow through that clip because it was usually Dawkins being the turnstile - yeah, he's that bad, too. Whatever his proclivities for wandering around farm fields in the buff, Kujo did a better job filling in for Glenn last year. Bills shoulda just bought him a membership to the American Naturist Society and let him go to it. I knew Bosa was good but Man, he's a Beast. But if you want to play OT in the NFL, you gotta be able to tame Beasts. If I had to bet, I bet on the Bills' OL just being that bad. But, part of me can't shake the feeling that as a result of TT being benched some players didn't play as well as they could have. I mean, I don't think that was the case, I just have a feeling it might have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 38 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Bosa might be pass rusher in league. Made Mills and Vlad look like high school players lol. He is setting records... but even still it looked like Mills was trying to play patty cake with a 3 year old. Its not that he just got beat. Its that there was no effort at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southtown Tommy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Serious questions: 1) do you believe Peterman is the future, or may be the future? 2) do you believe the bolded words above are true of any college QB drafted by the NFL? 1) Yes, he could be. Nobody knows. 2) Yes, Somewhat true - some qb's played at smaller schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, grb said: We Taylor supporters have much to learn from the Cult of Nathan. None of us ever tried tying ourselves into such convoluted knots to excuse the inexcusable. Our Nathanist brethren can teach us a great deal about proper cult-like dedication......... Oh well. What you fail to grasp is no one is saying Nate is the answer. We have a strong inclination that Taylor is done in Buffalo. I never wanted TT to fail. It is apparent that he did not evolve enough for McDermott to remain the starter. And if you insist I’m anti TT and a Natite Let me end with this until further notice TT is the backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 The Castillo scheme does not fit these OL players period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Petermania now over 30%! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Serious questions: 1) do you believe Peterman is the future, or may be the future? 2) do you believe the bolded words above are true of any college QB drafted by the NFL? 10 minutes ago, Southtown Tommy said: 1) Yes, he could be. Nobody knows. 2) Yes, Somewhat true - some qb's played at smaller schools. 9 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: What you fail to grasp is no one is saying Nate is the answer. I could be wrong, I often am...but these two things can not both be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I could be wrong, I often am...but these two things can not both be true I can only speak for myself i always want the new guys to succeed and I will not throw them away after 1 game. TT looked to be the answer in 15 (14 games) and then in 16 (14 or 15 games) we started to see a pattern said pattern continued into 17 make him be a QB Edited November 21, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Pimpin' Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Say what? The most INTs Tyrod has thrown in a season is 6, and you think there's no proof he wouldn't have thrown 5 in the first half of a single game? I never said Taylor would throw 5 picks. I said the result would be the same on the scoreboard. Buffalo would lose on points. Now if the team that throws the least amount of interceptions wins, then I would definitely play Taylor. Unfortunately for the Buffalo Bills, there is more to playing the QB position than a low interception rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Bills Pimpin' said: I never said Taylor would throw 5 picks. I said the result would be the same on the scoreboard. Buffalo would lose on points. Now if the team that throws the least amount of interceptions wins, then I would definitely play Taylor. Unfortunately for the Buffalo Bills, there is more to playing the QB position than a low interception rate. No, you said he wouldn't have fared any better. But feel free to backtrack, I can understand after such a ridiculous claim. There is nearly 0 chance that the halftime score is 37-7 with Tyrod in that game. The Chargers drives in the first half started at: BUF 31 thanks to an INT (Missed FG) LAC 25 thanks to a 2 run TD drive from Shady (FG) BUF 46 thanks to an INT (TD) BUF 15 thanks to an INT (TD) LAC 24 because we finally got through 3 plays and punted (FG) LAC 43 after another 3 & Out (TD) LAC 46 thanks to another INT (FG) Then also tack on the pick-6 for 7 more points. And it's worth pointing out, due to how short our drives were the Chargers had 7 possessions that half and we received the opening kick. 6 of our 8 possessions were 3 plays or less, and the 2 that were more than 3 plays both ended in INTs. Did you notice, by the way, that every time the Chargers had to go more than 60 yards their drive stalled and they kicked a FG instead of scoring a TD? Do yourself a favor and quit while you're behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Bills Pimpin' said: I never said Taylor would throw 5 picks. I said the result would be the same on the scoreboard. Buffalo would lose on points. Now if the team that throws the least amount of interceptions wins, then I would definitely play Taylor. Unfortunately for the Buffalo Bills, there is more to playing the QB position than a low interception rate. Taylor Hate is such a strange phenomena. Over at Rumblings there's a epic hater named ForeignArrow who does his own All-22 review after every game, grading the quarterback play. He just did the Chargers game (Peterman alone) and graded NP's game as 1.64. I won't even attempt to describe what that number is supposed to mean, but suffice it to say it's over five times better a grade than the same person gave Taylor for the Jet's game. It's as if the red-hot heat of hate has totally fried their brains. Edited November 22, 2017 by grb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Hater talk again. McDermott benched Taylor not us here on TBD. I guess McDermott hates Tyrod It’s the only logical conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Bills Pimpin' said: 1. You've never set foot in that locker room or any locker room as far as I know. "Lose the locker room" is a way over used cliche and when uttered by delusional fans is even worse. 2. Tyrod Taylor is not going to be the difference of whether this team makes the playoffs. In fact there is no proof Tyrod would have fared any different in the first half of the game on Sunday. In fact it was eerily similar to the first half at home versus the Saints. 3. I already think Peterman has more upside than Tyrod so I am not backtracking on that. I do think he will be better given the opportunity. 4. Tyrod was a sixth round pick so please stop comparing these players by draft status. 5. Tyrod is done in Buffalo regardless of your opinion and my opinion. It's time to move on especially for the emotional folks like yourself. TT would not have turned the ball over five times. He doesn't turn it over five times in a whole season.Way too hard with the agenda here. When players around the league comment on what a bad decision it way, pretty sure Bills players would feel the same way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Ohhh let me guess Agendas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 58 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Hater talk again. McDermott benched Taylor not us here on TBD. I guess McDermott hates Tyrod It’s the only logical conclusion. McDermott doesn't like anything associated with Whaley. He doesn't hate TT. The crusaders from the fanbase, that's a different story. Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: Ohhh let me guess Agendas You have posted nothing in here, and those posters whom you support, to suggest otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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