26CornerBlitz Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 great post, thanks for the work you put into these articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocephuz Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 great post, thanks for the work you put into these articles. Good to see PFF validated my Mills grade. Joe Buscaglia gave him a C .. not sure what he saw there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Good to see PFF validated my Mills grade. Joe Buscaglia gave him a C .. not sure what he saw there When Joe Buscaglia makes an astute football observation it will be the first one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocephuz Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited)  This is where I am at too.   Yeah, and thats one of the reasons I have been so active in this thread and Shaws thread...finally a thread with real discussion and debate. Im cool with the opposing opinions, and even though I greatly disagree on the Clay play with a few people, I respect their opinion and approach to that opinion. Rather enjoyed real back and forth discussion on a topic here rather than the usual stream of non sense thats plagued topics on this board most the off season.  TBH, I am floored that a topic like the TT and Clay subject of the INT has NOT turned into a TT bashing session like any topic usually does around here. It actually stayed almost predominantly on analytics of just the play and not some TT sucks rants. Very refreshing to say the least  Let's aim to keep these that way. Encourage healthy debate/ be objective Edited September 14, 2017 by Bocephuz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 OK, I love the work, but I have a question. Â You said there were 36 total passing plays, correct? That would imply 28 pass attempts, 2 sacks, and 6 scrambles. Right? Â Did you count it out while watching? Â I ask because kneel downs are usually counted as rushes. And Buffalo ended the game with three straight kneel downs from Taylor for -3 yards. Did the NFL not officially count those as rushes? On top of that, on the second to last drive, there were two designed runs for a total of 14 yards by Taylor. Those weren't passing plays. Â Â I'm not trying to criticize. You might be aware if you've looked at some of my previous posts, but I am genuinely a believer that you should separate scrambles from designed runs. That scrambles should be factored into net passing yards the exact same way that sacks are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 When Joe Buscaglia makes an astute football observation it will be the first one  I swear, sometimes I think he throws darts for those grade things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocephuz Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 OK, I love the work, but I have a question. Â You said there were 36 total passing plays, correct? That would imply 28 pass attempts, 2 sacks, and 6 scrambles. Right? Â Did you count it out while watching? Â I ask because kneel downs are usually counted as rushes. And Buffalo ended the game with three straight kneel downs from Taylor for -3 yards. Did the NFL not officially count those as rushes? On top of that, on the second to last drive, there were two designed runs for a total of 14 yards by Taylor. Those weren't passing plays. Â Â I'm not trying to criticize. You might be aware if you've looked at some of my previous posts, but I am genuinely a believer that you should separate scrambles from designed runs. That scrambles should be factored into net passing yards the exact same way that sacks are. I generally don't count the plays where he obviously has a called QB run like a bootleg. Â As this is an offensive line anaylsis i do count snaps where he drops back to pass but scrambles. Â Regarding the accuracy of my counts I would refer you to my paragraph 2 disclaimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltaBillsFan Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Great summary, thanx OP! I also agree the INT in the end zone was catch-able by Clay. First game of the season jitters perhaps (hopefully). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Great summary, thanx OP! I also agree the INT in the end zone was catch-able by Clay. First game of the season jitters perhaps (hopefully). Â The ball was definitely catchable but I also think that if Clay did secure it right away instead of going through his hands....the hit he took probably would have jarred it loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Good to see PFF validated my Mills grade. Joe Buscaglia gave him a C .. not sure what he saw there I am late to he partey as usual. But been reading since OP. Thank you Good Sir Bocephuz. Just awesome. And creating such fine dialogue here needs to be noted!! Keep them coming, your time and efforts are well received indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) I am late to he partey as usual. But been reading since OP. Thank you Good Sir Bocephuz. Just awesome. And creating such fine dialogue here needs to be noted!! Keep them coming, your time and efforts are well received indeed  Hear, hear Edited September 15, 2017 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Â Hear, hear we sure have some fine Folks here. Enrichens the Whole Gang ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 we sure have some fine Folks here. Enrichens the Whole Gang ! We had some on BBMB that I always looked forward to. Now I will look forward to this one too. Good job OP and thanks for the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 We had some on BBMB that I always looked forward to. Now I will look forward to this one too. Good job OP and thanks for the work. I am quite sure we will find our footing before long. Fans here and the Bills Like loving those darned Bills, try another shot of patience. Trust me on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I am quite sure we will find our footing before long. Fans here and the Bills Like loving those darned Bills, try another shot of patience. Trust me on this. Oh I quite happen to like this board a lot. I don't post as much here as I did there and I am slowly learning who and how everyone is around here. This is a great board. I think I actually like it better even if I do miss the old board. That place was getting pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Oh I quite happen to like this board a lot. I don't post as much here as I did there and I am slowly learning who and how everyone is around here. This is a great board. I think I actually like it better even if I do miss the old board. That place was getting pretty bad. The boards combining meant more bad posters but more good posters too. It balances out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Oh I quite happen to like this board a lot. I don't post as much here as I did there and I am slowly learning who and how everyone is around here. This is a great board. I think I actually like it better even if I do miss the old board. That place was getting pretty bad. Acclimating is the hardest part with anything new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 The boards combining meant more bad posters but more good posters too. It balances out. true enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 The boards combining meant more bad posters but more good posters too. It balances out. It is an equation. Bad and good are not quite true. they are X's and Y's and variables. Everyone has a point to make i guess, it is how they present it and or defend it. And for how long. learning how each member plays over time, all the others will adjust. I mean Gugny for example... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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