dubs Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) It's pretty standard. It is math. It is not some type of opinion you can debate. Run the actual numbers in the 2016 draft. Run the actual numbers in the 9ers trade. Oh - wow actual GMs in 2017 use the chart. shocker! Its not math when subjective values are placed on these things. Jeez. Read a book for me one time! I have an idea. I love you're 2014 Toyota Corolla that's worth 150 bucks. So I'll give you 150 for it. Sound good? When can I pick up. Edited April 28, 2017 by dubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 WOW Raiders pick the guy who's facing rape charges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 It's pretty standard. It is math. It is not some type of opinion you can debate. Run the actual numbers in the 2016 draft. Run the actual numbers in the 9ers trade. Oh - wow actual GMs in 2017 use the chart. shocker! I could be wrong but doesn't the Bears/49ers trade blow the trade value chart away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I could be wrong but doesn't the Bears/49ers trade blow the trade value chart away? But it's math! Whaley sucks. Ralph is cheap!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 GUYS who's left on the board for our pick at 27? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I could be wrong but doesn't the Bears/49ers trade blow the trade value chart away? You are wrong. The delta is 400 on the chart and the Bears gave up about exactly 400But it's math! Whaley sucks. Ralph is cheap!!!!You're a clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I could be wrong but doesn't the Bears/49ers trade blow the trade value chart away? Bears 2600 49ers 2200+255+104+41= 2600 It's right using the rough rule of thumb method of devaluing future picks by 1 round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Something I'll never understand: all you guys who know more than the Bills and could have done better...why are you all sitting here on a Thursday night posting on a random message board for a bad football team? Why aren't you in the War Room in Philly? We need you geniuses, dammit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 who's left for us??? who's still awake??? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Bears 2600 49ers 2200+255+104+41= 2600 It's right using the rough rule of thumb method of devaluing future picks by 1 round. So going by this idea, a 3rd round pick in 2018 is worth less than a 5th round pick right now? I mean it adds up, but that seems like silly logic. You get the guy for 5 years either way. I understand the "make an impact now" idea, but the Bears, Browns, 49ers, and maybe even the Bills aren't contending anytime soon for this to be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 So going by this idea, a 3rd round pick in 2018 is worth less than a 5th round pick right now? I mean it adds up, but that seems like silly logic. You get the guy for 5 years either way. I understand the "make an impact now" idea, but the Bears, Browns, 49ers, and maybe even the Bills aren't contending anytime soon for this to be considered. Don't do any independent thinking. It's all about math and the chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) It's pretty standard. It is math. It is not some type of opinion you can debate. Run the actual numbers in the 2016 draft. Run the actual numbers in the 9ers trade. Oh - wow actual GMs in 2017 use the chart. shocker! Run the numbers on how many future #1 overall picks you would have to trade to get this year's #1 overall pick using the "1-round deduction" for future drafts. Never gonna happen. These are guidelines, not straight math. Also, everyone already knows the Bears got fleeced hard, so the fact that the numbers line up almost exactly should tell you how inaccurate they are. Edited April 28, 2017 by MPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Bills pick coming up. you guys still there? LOL it's white. A DB! geez. well we got 2 very good corners now (hopefully). Darby and White. Coach McD not exactly following the template from Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 So going by this idea, a 3rd round pick in 2018 is worth less than a 5th round pick right now? I mean it adds up, but that seems like silly logic. You get the guy for 5 years either way. I understand the "make an impact now" idea, but the Bears, Browns, 49ers, and maybe even the Bills aren't contending anytime soon for this to be considered. With the rough rule of thumb, the 3rd in 2018 would be worth a 4th this year. From what I understand, most teams use their own internal chart that vary slightly from the one posted here. Also, it's very important to understand that each draft is different and results can vary wildly depending on who is available. For example, there is no way you were trading into the #2 spot for the Luck/RG3 draft like Chicago did today. It took a king's ransom to get that pick because of the players involved. The naysayers can point out the aberrations, but for the most part the draft chart is still very much alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 @ChrisBrownBills McDermott: Having coach Reid in KC helped w/trust factor having worked with him, but Doug did a good job with this deal. #Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 @ChrisBrownBills McDermott: Having coach Reid in KC helped w/trust factor having worked with him, but Doug did a good job with this deal. #Bills Nice to see the company line toed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Everything is time value of money +1, Gerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 @ChrisBrownBills McDermott: Having coach Reid in KC helped w/trust factor having worked with him, but Doug did a good job with this deal. #Bills What exactly is the trust factor really? What's the concern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I guess, but you still get 5 years out of both players. But the person who makes that trade is more likely to be gone because of unmet expectations. Delayed gratification amounts to career suicide in a short term business like the nfl. If mcdermott has two losing seasons, he will be gone. Bank on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 @ChiefsReporter Dorsey told me the deal to trade up originated five days ago when he spoke w/ #Bills GM Doug Whaley. Said they spoke every day this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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