Captain Murica Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 So, we are 10 games under .500, and our manager continues to deny how bad this team is. He literally said last night after stranding runners on 2nd and 3rd with no outs TWICE and were unable to get a run home and struck out three consecutive at bats that “they’re snapping out of it.” I hate harping on the negative stuff but the only bright spot was Dom going yard and roping a double. Other than that there isn’t much else to be happy or pleased about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 There was that Friday night Phillies game a few weeks back where Conforto hit the 9th inning HR. I thought that might kick start some momentum but never did. Even the win against the Yankees just felt more nice in that it stopped the bleeding a little. At this rate it's not even gonna be a 70 win season more like 55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Captain Murica said: So, we are 10 games under .500, and our manager continues to deny how bad this team is. He literally said last night after stranding runners on 2nd and 3rd with no outs TWICE and were unable to get a run home and struck out three consecutive at bats that “they’re snapping out of it.” I hate harping on the negative stuff but the only bright spot was Dom going yard and roping a double. Other than that there isn’t much else to be happy or pleased about. I, too, hate harping on the negative. But, Jesus Christ ... not much positive outside of the starting pitchers. Ces and Thor out "indefinitely." Still no excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Another Fan said: There was that Friday night Phillies game a few weeks back where Conforto hit the 9th inning HR. I thought that might kick start some momentum but never did. Even the win against the Yankees just felt more nice in that it stopped the bleeding a little. At this rate it's not even gonna be a 70 win season more like 55 Its sad to think we will possibly not even squeak out 70 wins with starting pitching like we have. So much for starting pitching wins championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Captain Murica said: Its sad to think we will possibly not even squeak out 70 wins with starting pitching like we have. So much for starting pitching wins championships. Starting pitching wins championships with decent management and coaching - of which, we seem to have neither. This brings me back to the Willie Randolph days. This team is too talented to not be better than this. Even with the injuries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 On 6/14/2018 at 10:13 PM, Misterbluesky said: Best of luck to him and his mates on Saturday morning!!! Self edit...I'm not with you fellas when it comes to trading both or either of our aces...no way,no how. You base a team around solid pitching. Just my two cents worth.. Just to close the book on my sons Little League season - they won it all! Once again it took extra innings, they won 3-2 on a bottom 7 walk-off single with the bases loaded and one out. One of the coaches brought a dozen liters of seltzer for the "champagne" celebration. Good times! So now it's time for the Mets to turn their season around. I'm not looking for a miracle, but competence doesn't seem like too much to ask for. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, SinceThe70s said: Just to close the book on my sons Little League season - they won it all! Once again it took extra innings, they won 3-2 on a bottom 7 walk-off single with the bases loaded and one out. One of the coaches brought a dozen liters of seltzer for the "champagne" celebration. Good times! So now it's time for the Mets to turn their season around. I'm not looking for a miracle, but competence doesn't seem like too much to ask for. Tell the young man Kevin from Buffalo says Congrats!! And there is no closing the books,he will remember this day forever and so will you.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said: Tell the young man Kevin from Buffalo says Congrats!! And there is no closing the books,he will remember this day forever and so will you.? Your name is Kevin Bluesky? You must be Native American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, Gugny said: Your name is Kevin Bluesky? You must be Native American. No...Kevin Lewandowski. MrBluesky is a ELO song.Nice game tonight...the winning streak starts now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, Misterbluesky said: No...Kevin Lewandowski. MrBluesky is a ELO song.Nice game tonight...the winning streak starts now. I caught the ELO reference as soon as you joined the board!! Yes. Good game. Gotta win another 10 in a row now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Gugny said: I caught the ELO reference as soon as you joined the board!! Yes. Good game. Gotta win another 10 in a row now. I'd be happy if they catch fire and go an a blistering 5-5 run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 Seems appropriate..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Another Fan said: Seems appropriate..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 22 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: Tell the young man Kevin from Buffalo says Congrats!! And there is no closing the books,he will remember this day forever and so will you.? Connor had a big smile on his face when I told him that Kevin from Buffalo (TBD) extended his congrats. His father Matt appreciated the moment and sentiment. And for the record the Mets are 2-0 since Connor's season ended. 11-1 before, 2-0 since...draw your own conclusions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Switch Thor with deGrom and I'm okay with that. I prefer keeping Thor over Jake at this point due to age and years of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: Switch Thor with deGrom and I'm okay with that. I prefer keeping Thor over Jake at this point due to age and years of control. I'd trade Conforto in a NY minute. I think Thor is damaged goods. Getting rid of him now would be difficult. Need to wait till next year, when he's "healthy" again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, Gugny said: I'd trade Conforto in a NY minute. I think Thor is damaged goods. Getting rid of him now would be difficult. Need to wait till next year, when he's "healthy" again. I'd trade Conforto to a division rival. That's how underwhelming he's been since coming back. My main reason for preferring to trade deGrom over Thor is that Thor is younger, more years under control with a team friendly contract, and deGrom would/should bring in a hefty haul of prospects compared to Thor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: I'd trade Conforto to a division rival. That's how underwhelming he's been since coming back. My main reason for preferring to trade deGrom over Thor is that Thor is younger, more years under control with a team friendly contract, and deGrom would/should bring in a hefty haul of prospects compared to Thor. I get, and respect, your reasoning re: deGrom. I'd personally rather keep him, but - for the reasons you mentioned - I'd be okay with trading him. BUT ... trading deGrom would have to include the Mets getting two proven everyday position players AND prospects. He's that good. Then I'd be okay with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, Gugny said: I get, and respect, your reasoning re: deGrom. I'd personally rather keep him, but - for the reasons you mentioned - I'd be okay with trading him. BUT ... trading deGrom would have to include the Mets getting two proven everyday position players AND prospects. He's that good. Then I'd be okay with it. Yeah, that is the only haul I would be content with trading off deGrom. In a perfect world we keep them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 If Bruce is going to get out of his slump,it starts tonight in the launching pad.Maybe my boy,Nimmo can give him a few pointers (joking).Great pitcher match up for us tonight...three in a row boys,bank on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) I think if the mets do begin to sell off pieces, I believe Familia and Assdribble are the first to go. I think Gsellman has made Familia expendable and Cabrera is a switch hitter with some power and can play 3 positions on the INF. Edited June 18, 2018 by Captain Murica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Beautiful! Nimmo is red hot....Bruce ,oh my,time for the lumberjack to be called up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Captain Murica said: I think if the mets do begin to sell off pieces, I believe Familia and Assdribble are the first to go. I think Gsellman has made Familia expendable and Cabrera is a switch hitter with some power and can play 3 positions on the INF. Just like our Bills .. it's time to get younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 They just interviewed his father a few innings back. He literally smiles the entire time, no wonder where the kid gets it from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Captain Murica said: They just interviewed his father a few innings back. He literally smiles the entire time, no wonder where the kid gets it from. That was a great interview. What a nice guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) Nimmo for sure, and hopefully Josh Allen lives up to this (since he went to school there): People from Wyoming rule! Edited June 19, 2018 by Another Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, Another Fan said: Nimmo for sure, and hopefully Josh Allen lives up to this (since he went to school there): People from Wyoming rule! First rounders coming from Wyoming whom would have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Another Fan said: Nimmo for sure, and hopefully Josh Allen lives up to this (since he went to school there): People from Wyoming rule! It was great to see such a genuinely nice kid have a big game in front of his family. Hitting an inside the park HR in the majors is a rarity, doing it with your parents in the stands is priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 On 6/18/2018 at 2:32 PM, Gugny said: I'd trade Conforto in a NY minute. I think Thor is damaged goods. Getting rid of him now would be difficult. Need to wait till next year, when he's "healthy" again. I have to question you on both of these statements. Didn't you insist that Conforto had to start 150+ games this season? I get the frustration, but I'm not with the all-in to all-out frame of mind. Damaged goods carries an implication that you traded for a guy that was already hurt, so a poor choice of words IMO. I assume you mean that we should abandon ship due to the injury history the past two seasons. It's a concern, but why in the world would you give up on world class talent while he's young and under control? Are we going to bring in a young stud whose guaranteed to be as good and injury free? Injuries are an occupational hazard for pitchers...just ask Strasburg, Kershaw, Bumgarner and a host of others. Sucks when they're overpaid but we are not there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 hour ago, SinceThe70s said: I have to question you on both of these statements. Didn't you insist that Conforto had to start 150+ games this season? I get the frustration, but I'm not with the all-in to all-out frame of mind. Damaged goods carries an implication that you traded for a guy that was already hurt, so a poor choice of words IMO. I assume you mean that we should abandon ship due to the injury history the past two seasons. It's a concern, but why in the world would you give up on world class talent while he's young and under control? Are we going to bring in a young stud whose guaranteed to be as good and injury free? Injuries are an occupational hazard for pitchers...just ask Strasburg, Kershaw, Bumgarner and a host of others. Sucks when they're overpaid but we are not there yet. Good points. I'm not above being reeled in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Gugny said: Good points. I'm not above being reeled in. I'll concede the sinking feeling on Conforto, I'm losing faith too, just too many positives for me to give up on him yet. But I don't get anyone who wants to dump Noah or Jake. To me, it's madness. We spend our baseball lifetimes looking for the next Seaver or Gooden, now we have two suitors and we want to dump them for what? Guys that "might" be the next Seaver/Gooden or "can't miss" position player? I have a friend who loves to fish. Sometimes we find a spot and we're catching fish but maybe not as many, or as big as we want and one of his questions is "do we leave fish to find fish". The great part is there's no way to know the right answer. Same with baseball players. But I always want the big fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Since Cespedes signed that fat 4 year contract,he has played in just 50% of the games..can't blame Mick and Sandy for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 34 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Since Cespedes signed that fat 4 year contract,he has played in just 50% of the games..can't blame Mick and Sandy for that. Nope. They can't be blamed for Ces being hurt and I can't say I was unhappy when Sandy signed him to that deal. However ... putting Dom Smith in left field is pure stupidity. And not sending Conforto down is a terrible non-move. Last night's game was some of the worst baseball I've ever seen in my life. These guys are just not playing at a major league level. It's tough to watch, although I'll continue. And with every game, I feel more and more that Callaway is inept at managing a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 23 minutes ago, Gugny said: However ... putting Dom Smith in left field is pure stupidity. And not sending Conforto down is a terrible non-move. Yet Borenstein is still taking long bus rides out west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Gugny said: Nope. They can't be blamed for Ces being hurt and I can't say I was unhappy when Sandy signed him to that deal. However ... putting Dom Smith in left field is pure stupidity. And not sending Conforto down is a terrible non-move. Last night's game was some of the worst baseball I've ever seen in my life. These guys are just not playing at a major league level. It's tough to watch, although I'll continue. And with every game, I feel more and more that Callaway is inept at managing a team. Yeah, I mean I wasn't thrilled Cespedes opted out of his deal and we decided to sign him again to more money. My step brother used to work in the accounting department of a sport agency in time square. He knew agents and would hang out with them and meet a bunch of Mets, Yankees, Knicks players and etc. He told me there is a firm belief that Cespedes is a lot older than he is portraying himself out to be. Hence why the issues he is having with his legs, first thing to go is your legs. - Dom in LF is beyond dumb. He was toted to being a guy that would multiple gold gloves at First. Since his little maneuver in Arizona they have exiled him to LF? In the toughest ballpark to play the OF in. - I have to agree some of the moves last night were beyond dumb. Fans like us could have made better moves just using logic. If I watch Kevin Plawecki hit into another DP or weak fly ball I'm going to lose it, Lol. When asked about it after the game Mickey stated he didn't use Rosario until the 9th because he wanted to save him for a "possible" defensive replacement. Rosario singled against their closer in the 9th where Plawecki hitting .190 (not even his weight) swung at ball 4 with the bases loaded and into a DP with 1 out and us being down by 1. Edited June 21, 2018 by Captain Murica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: Yeah, I mean I wasn't thrilled Cespedes opted out of his deal and we decided to sign him again to more money. My step brother used to work in the accounting department of a sport agency in time square. He knew agents and would hang out with them and meet a bunch of Mets, Yankees, Knicks players and etc. He told me there is a firm belief that Cespedes is a lot older than he is portraying himself out to be. Hence why the issues he is having with his legs, first thing to go is your legs. - Dom in LF is beyond dumb. He was toted to being a guy that would multiple gold gloves at First. Since his little maneuver in Arizona they have exiled him to LF? In the toughest ballpark to play the OF in. - I have to agree some of the moves last night were beyond dumb. Fans like us could have made better moves just using logic. If I watch Kevin Plawecki hit into another DP or weak fly ball I'm going to lose it, Lol. When asked about it after the game Mickey stated he didn't use Rosario until the 9th because he wanted to save him for a "possible" defensive replacement. Rosario singled against their closer in the 9th where Plawecki hitting .190 (not even his weight) swung at ball 4 with the bases loaded and into a DP with 1 out and us being down by 1. He has been overmanaging since day one. They didn't have the early winning streak because of his management; they had it despite his management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Reyes gets another start this afternoon (2b). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Misterbluesky said: Reyes gets another start this afternoon (2b). And Dom gets the bench today after going 3-5 yesterday with 2 extra base hits and 2 runs scored, I understand its a LHP, but they could have Flores at 2nd and Dom at 1st. Reyes has been solid since May 22nd as he has posted an OPS. of .711 and an OBP of .378, still give the young guys as much plate appearances as possible right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Captain Murica said: And Dom gets the bench today after going 3-5 yesterday with 2 extra base hits and 2 runs scored, I understand its a LHP, but they could have Flores at 2nd and Dom at 1st. Reyes has been solid since May 22nd as he has posted an OPS. of .711 and an OBP of .378, still give the young guys as much plate appearances as possible right now. Exactly. With Cabrera and Flores both back, there is no reason Reyes should even be on the team. At all. Callaway is a joke. You don't rest a guy - especially a young one - the day after he has a great night at the plate. Joke. Is Mesoraco hurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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