jeffismagic Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Why did the 9 teams ahead of us pass on him if he's so can't miss? Why did Roethlisberger, Brady, Brees, Derek Carr, Russell Wilson, or Dak Prescott last so long? Teams use methods to draft QB's and they are far from perfect. Many of the scouts are going off stuff from 2 decades ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Why did the 9 teams ahead of us pass on him if he's so can't miss? I'm one of those kinda guys who doesn't care what other people think. I'm also a betting man. Some people play it safe, I don't. Here's what I do know though... Drafting a WR is pointless. We could have AJ Green and Julio Jones to team with Watkins and it wouldn't matter....you know why. Drafting a DB is also pointless. What's a DB supposed to do against Brady, Gronk and the Pats? Brady shreds everyone. Good passing offenses have an advantage over good defenses because of the rules. We cannot compete without a QB. Mahomes is a prospect I'd bet my career on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I'm one of those kinda guys who doesn't care what other people think. I'm also a betting man. Some people play it safe, I don't. Here's what I do know though... Drafting a WR is pointless. We could have AJ Green and Julio Jones to team with Watkins and it wouldn't matter....you know why. Drafting a DB is also pointless. What's a DB supposed to do against Brady, Gronk and the Pats? Brady shreds everyone. Good passing offenses have an advantage over good defenses because of the rules. We cannot compete without a QB. Mahomes is a prospect I'd bet my career on. I'm with you. Playing it safe leads nowhere when you compete against 31 other teams. If you strike gold with Mahomes then you put yourself in a position to compete for a Superbowl and win the WHOLE THING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) The dude is correct , we need to not only draft Mahomes but also should draft Chad Kelly in the 5th round. Nothing else matters unless you have a QB. You don't get a Franchise QB unless you draft one. There is no trading for one or getting one through free agency. Look would you trade all the bills draft picks the next 2 years for Aaron Rogers of course you would. Well guess what Green would not make that trade. You can get all the other positions in the draft and through free agency or CFL or Arena football league or Australian Rules football or College Free agents that don't get drafted. You can get any position but you can't get the franchise QB. So just stop the silliness that we should draft a reciever or corner with the 10th pick like it will matter. If you want to keep pounding salt and your head up against rocks for 10 more years with no playoffs then let's just keep drafting Running Backs and DB's and keep being losers. I'm out, I said my piece. Just look at the teams that make the playoffs every year. Look at who there Quaterback are, do I need to make a list for you. This is not rocket science it's simple. We need to keep drafting QB's until we find our franchise QB end of story nothing else matters. I could give 2 ***** who else the Bills draft. Edited March 29, 2017 by billsareback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) I'm one of those kinda guys who doesn't care what other people think. I'm also a betting man. Some people play it safe, I don't. Here's what I do know though... Drafting a WR is pointless. We could have AJ Green and Julio Jones to team with Watkins and it wouldn't matter....you know why. Drafting a DB is also pointless. What's a DB supposed to do against Brady, Gronk and the Pats? Brady shreds everyone. Good passing offenses have an advantage over good defenses because of the rules. We cannot compete without a QB. Mahomes is a prospect I'd bet my career on. You like him over trubinsky, watson, kizer,.. I jsut don't get the Mahomes love I guess. Why did Roethlisberger, Brady, Brees, Derek Carr, Russell Wilson, or Dak Prescott last so long? Teams use methods to draft QB's and they are far from perfect. Many of the scouts are going off stuff from 2 decades ago. Do you consider him head and shoulders above the rest of the class? Edited March 29, 2017 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 You like him over trubinsky, watson, kizer,.. I jsut don't get the Mahomes love I guess. Do you consider him head and shoulders above the rest of the class? I like Trubisky a lot too. But Mahomes upside is way higher so that's why I am on this train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 You like him over trubinsky, watson, kizer,.. I jsut don't get the Mahomes love I guess. Do you consider him head and shoulders above the rest of the class? I love Mahomes because he can make any throw on the move throng from any platform. If he's gotta sidearm it, no problem...he'll sidearm it 50 yards down field, on point. He's a special, special player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 You like him over trubinsky, watson, kizer,.. I jsut don't get the Mahomes love I guess. I have a bad feeling about Watson. I don't think he is going to be great at this level. His lack of velocity/accuracy issues scare me. Kizer reminds me just of EJ/Josh Freeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I have a bad feeling about Watson. I don't think he is going to be great at this level. His lack of velocity/accuracy issues scare me. Kizer reminds me just of EJ/Josh Freeman. Kizer is the one that scares me the most. I want nothing to do with Kizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I love Mahomes because he can make any throw on the move throng from any platform. If he's gotta sidearm it, no problem...he'll sidearm it 50 yards down field, on point. He's a special, special player. Hey - i'd be down. If they take a QB at 10 i completely understand them doing it, but I'm not going to be pissed if they don't. These guys all seem to have flaws in some way shape or form. Be it arm strength, footwork, accuracy, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 6. New York Jets Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech: I am not convinced they think they have their quarterback of the future on the roster. Are you? http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/priscos-nfl-mock-draft-4-0-fournette-goes-in-top-five-jets-take-patrick-mahomes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 6. New York Jets Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech: I am not convinced they think they have their quarterback of the future on the roster. Are you? http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/priscos-nfl-mock-draft-4-0-fournette-goes-in-top-five-jets-take-patrick-mahomes/ Saw that too - some people are super high on Mahomes, others like trubinsky, others like watson, and others even like kizer. Weird draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 47 pages about a QB we wont be drafting...maybe he can throw to Hogan and his 50+ page thread lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 47 pages about a QB we wont be drafting...maybe he can throw to Hogan and his 50+ page thread lmao. You want something to laugh about? The Bills have not had a franchise qb for over 20 years. Do you want to hear something else that is really hilarious? The Bills have not made the playoffs for 18 consecutive years and still counting in a system designed for parity. You want to hear even more comical material? The Bills have a history of passing on good qb prospects that other teams are willing to select and move forward with. There is a good chance that the Bills will be in a position to take the first qb in this draft. The odds are nil that they will select a qb in a high round. That's what the Bills do. That's why they are one of the least successful franchises in modern time. Some people might consider that to be a laughable situation and others not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 You want something to laugh about? The Bills have not had a franchise qb for over 20 years. Do you want to hear something else that is really hilarious? The Bills have not made the playoffs for 18 consecutive years and still counting in a system designed for parity. You want to hear even more comical material? The Bills have a history of passing on good qb prospects that other teams are willing to select and move forward with. There is a good chance that the Bills will be in a position to take the first qb in this draft. The odds are nil that they will select a qb in a high round. That's what the Bills do. That's why they are one of the least successful franchises in modern time. Some people might consider that to be a laughable situation and others not so much. What this guy said. I wish Terry and Kim Pegula got 100 letters like this a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) You want something to laugh about? The Bills have not had a franchise qb for over 20 years. Do you want to hear something else that is really hilarious? The Bills have not made the playoffs for 18 consecutive years and still counting in a system designed for parity. You want to hear even more comical material? The Bills have a history of passing on good qb prospects that other teams are willing to select and move forward with. There is a good chance that the Bills will be in a position to take the first qb in this draft. The odds are nil that they will select a qb in a high round. That's what the Bills do. That's why they are one of the least successful franchises in modern time. Some people might consider that to be a laughable situation and others not so much. Its actually 16 years, but whose counting Weird...the Bills offense the last 2 years are the highest scoring 2 years in Bills history outside the first 3 SB runs. Even higher scoring than 3rd and 4th SB years combined. But hey, people still seem to think passing yards matter more than Points around here, so theres that. And you don't draft a QB high in a draft class where the draft is loaded everywhere but QB is the weak link. Sorry, its just stupid to do that. How did overdrafting at QB work out for the Bills thus far? All EPIC failures. Why, because its STUPID to reach for QB's and pass up better talent at positions we don't even have a starter at yet. Especially when fielding a high scoring, run oriented offense already that outscored most the playoff teams this year. Offense and scoring are NOT our biggest issues. PERIOD. No amount of rants can change that. Edited March 29, 2017 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoho Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) You want something to laugh about? The Bills have not had a franchise qb for over 20 years. Do you want to hear something else that is really hilarious? The Bills have not made the playoffs for 18 consecutive years and still counting in a system designed for parity. You want to hear even more comical material? The Bills have a history of passing on good qb prospects that other teams are willing to select and move forward with. There is a good chance that the Bills will be in a position to take the first qb in this draft. The odds are nil that they will select a qb in a high round. That's what the Bills do. That's why they are one of the least successful franchises in modern time. Some people might consider that to be a laughable situation and others not so much. I want the Bills to pick the best quarterback available except if it is E J Manuel or Trent Edwards then don't pick them. I want the Bills to trade up if necessary for a QB unless it is J P Losman, then I don't want them to trade. I want the Bills to trade for a promising young QB unless it is Rob Johnson, then don't bother. I want the Bills to take a flyer on free agent QB's unless it is Doug Flutie, Tavaris Jackson, Matt Flynn or Ryan Fitzpatrick. I want them to draft Russell Wilson or other later round starting QB's that were passed over by 80 draft picks because it turns out they are really good. And then I want to remind everyone that we have not made the playoffs in 18 years because I am pretty sure that people posting on a Bills message board do not remember that, even if it has only been 16, so I think it bears repeating in every post. Edited March 29, 2017 by Yoho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Its actually 16 years, but whose counting Weird...the Bills offense the last 2 years are the highest scoring 2 years in Bills history outside the first 3 SB runs. Even higher scoring than 3rd and 4th SB years combined. But hey, people still seem to think passing yards matter more than Points around here, so theres that. And you don't draft a QB high in a draft class where the draft is loaded everywhere but QB is the weak link. Sorry, its just stupid to do that. How did overdrafting at QB work out for the Bills thus far? All EPIC failures. Why, because its STUPID to reach for QB's and pass up better talent at positions we don't even have a starter at yet. Especially when fielding a high scoring, run oriented offense already that outscored most the playoff teams this year. Offense and scoring are NOT our biggest issues. PERIOD. No amount of rants can change that. I wish we over drafted Derek Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I wish we over drafted Derek Carr. I wish we looked for QBs at grocery stores bagging so we could get our Kurt Warner...another cherry picked example, but keep going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I wish we looked for QBs at grocery stores bagging so we could get our Kurt Warner...another cherry picked example, but keep going. Rank the last ten QB classes in terms of "strength" please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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