Boatdrinks Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Far too early to write the book on Shaq Lawson or Ragland. Let's see what they do with a full training camp and OTAs and a season on the field . Sure year one is a disappointment and there are concerns already with SL but far too soon. As far as Whaley is concerned , the best his work to date can be described as is mediocre. The Lawson / Ragland picks are a part of that. The players themselves still have a chance to be difference makers. As for Cardale, he's raw and a long shot at best. What you do early in the draft affects what you are able to do later. Giving up a fourth for Ragland meant the Bills would have to use a third on Prescott if they wanted him. Whaley gambled and was stuck with Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 its a bit early to call a 4th round qb drafted last year a blown pick tremendous tools....hasnt even played that much ball Yeah it was a worthwhile selection.........you gotta' take shots at finding a QB. That said......the reality is that Cardale really hasn't "won" a starting job since High School. And there are people citing "what are the odds" with regard to Tyrod becoming a franchise QB and talking about Cardale as an answer in the same breath. Far too early to write the book on Shaq Lawson or Ragland. Let's see what they do with a full training camp and OTAs and a season on the field . Sure year one is a disappointment and there are concerns already with SL but far too soon. As far as Whaley is concerned , the best his work to date can be described as is mediocre. The Lawson / Ragland picks are a part of that. The players themselves still have a chance to be difference makers. As for Cardale, he's raw and a long shot at best. What you do early in the draft affects what you are able to do later. Giving up a fourth for Ragland meant the Bills would have to use a third on Prescott if they wanted him. Whaley gambled and was stuck with Jones. There was a fair amount of chatter about the Bills and Prescott. Might have been smoke but it was the same with Russell Wilson. "What happens to a dream deferred?" Always be thinkin' quarterback.......except when you don't have one.....then ALWAYS be thinkin' quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanInJax Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 its a bit early to call a 4th round qb drafted last year a blown pick tremendous tools....hasnt even played that much ball We will see. Scouts said JaMarcus Russell had "tremendous tools" too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 We will see. Scouts said JaMarcus Russell had "tremendous tools" too.. where were these two players drafted again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 where were these two players drafted again? If Russel was a 4th rounder, he'd be good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1) Good pros are cheap and easy to find in FA........first rounders and high seconds(a 2 and two 4th's for Ragnuts) are supposed to be impact players. 2) Almost zero production thru the first 25% of their contract is not a death sentence to them becoming replacement level "good pros" but it's a real rough start on that investment in aggregate. I say 25% because the fifth year option on Shaq ain't gonna' be cheap so he could end up in FA the same year Ragnuts does if he continues to scuffle like he did in his 10 games this year. I hear you. I think their ceilings are higher than you seem to, but we will see soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 If Russel was a 4th rounder, he'd be good? who knows? Maybe they would have groomed him a bit instead of starting him and he wouldnt have been such a lazy cuss after getting knocked down a couple of pegs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb62 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 If we keep him do are we on the hook for the whole contract? I thought I read we could still bail on some it down the road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Yeah it was a worthwhile selection.........you gotta' take shots at finding a QB. That said......the reality is that Cardale really hasn't "won" a starting job since High School. And there are people citing "what are the odds" with regard to Tyrod becoming a franchise QB and talking about Cardale as an answer in the same breath. There was a fair amount of chatter about the Bills and Prescott. Might have been smoke but it was the same with Russell Wilson. "What happens to a dream deferred?" Always be thinkin' quarterback.......except when you don't have one.....then ALWAYS be thinkin' quarterback. Yes there was, some of it from John Murphy who obviously hears a thing or two from those in the know ( regardless of his shilling for the team). Whaley is a riverboat gambler with the draft when it comes to non - QBs. Seems to have cost him a shot at some legit NFL starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 So you want the Bills to have 2 elite WR and an inadequate QB that can't get them the ball. Makes perfect sense! Makes you wonder how Sammy was putting up some of the best numbers in the NFL over the second half of 2015 since nobody was throwing to him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Makes you wonder how Sammy was putting up some of the best numbers in the NFL over the second half of 2015 since nobody was throwing to him... that does not get talked about enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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