Mr. WEO Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Doesn't matter?! the reason we pass on wilson is because we have fitz! He also brought in Chan Gailey - who was a joke when he was hired and a joke when he was fired. We never won more than 6 games during Nix's time here. And he oversaw the 2010 draft - we legit have 0 players from 2010 on the roster. People complain we don't have enough drafted players... thats why! That's 6 years ago... we extended 0 players from that draft. So so wrong. They passed on Wilson because Nix and Whaley couldn't figure out he was an easy choice in the third round. Whaley cut his teeth in the NFL as a scout and he told Nix to pass on Wilson. They settled on the worst WR the Bills have drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Didn't Whaley bring in Jim Monos? A lot of people seem to think highly of Monos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Costs more to get rid of Dareus than to keep him. Actually costs more to keep him when considering more than money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Actually costs more to keep him when considering more than money. Do we want to field a roster...? his cap hit is 16.7 in 2017, or 32.7 if we cut him. If we split the hit over 2 years its about the same. If we keep him for both years... its about the same. You're saying cut a player for no pick compensation, and pay him exactly the same amount, as well as eat the same amount of cap charge. So so wrong. They passed on Wilson because Nix and Whaley couldn't figure out he was an easy choice in the third round. Whaley cut his teeth in the NFL as a scout and he told Nix to pass on Wilson. They settled on the worst WR the Bills have drafted. So... we signed fitz to an extension in 2011 mid-season. Didn't draft a QB in 2012 - Wilson, Cousins, Osweiler, Foles... Then drafted EJ in 2013. In a terrible draft, because Fitz wasn't good enough. This screams good player evaluation? You don't think that extending Fitz had anything to do with us not targeting a QB? Also - that extension is on nix, and it was a terrible terrible move. Edited January 11, 2017 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Not necessarily in order, here are some of the fiascos.... 1) Drafting Sammy. He mortgaged the future and lost. 2) Giving Dareus a billion dollars. 3) Taking the behavior clause out of his contract. 4) Shaq - looks like a mistake but it's admittedly early. 5) Gave up to much for Ragland. 6) Gave the Eagles a 4th for that running back who lasted 10 or 15 minutes. 7) Was, and still might be in love with EJ. 8) Too much money to Clay. 9) Percy Harvin. 10) He is an undisciplined poor planner and throws away the Bills resources at will. 11) Rob Ryan. I mean really. Other than the above, he is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Worst move was trading a first round pick in the draft to move up and get sammy watkins in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Best - He makes some downright inspired FA and trade moves. Worst - Cutting Fred Jackson. His leadership has been missed on a team that desperately needed it in 2015 and 2016. It set the wrong tone. Edited January 11, 2017 by dpberr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Do we want to field a roster...? his cap hit is 16.7 in 2017, or 32.7 if we cut him. If we split the hit over 2 years its about the same. If we keep him for both years... its about the same. You're saying cut a player for no pick compensation, and pay him exactly the same amount, as well as eat the same amount of cap charge. So... we signed fitz to an extension in 2011 mid-season. Didn't draft a QB in 2012 - Wilson, Cousins, Osweiler, Foles... Then drafted EJ in 2013. In a terrible draft, because Fitz wasn't good enough. This screams good player evaluation? You don't think that extending Fitz had anything to do with us not targeting a QB? Also - that extension is on nix, and it was a terrible terrible move. Who did Carroll sign to be their starter for 25 million just before he drafted Wilson? A smart GM would have hedged the bitter pill of resigning a guy like Fitz......by drafting his replacement--for nothing. I mean....really. How simple was this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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