MAJBobby Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) That is the cash payout dye Tyrod on the 3rd day of next league year. When this rush contract for PR was done and it didnt need to be the pressure came on. I would be fine with Tyrods play this year if there wasnt a 27.5M cash payout and long term tie to him due 3 days after new year. But their is, and that makes his lack of development as a passer that much more intesified, and why posters like me have been very critical of him as a passer, because of this contract that did not need to be done. Edited October 24, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Right, and then we get him cash cheap for a few years after. As explained in like 14 threads the actual cash number means little beyond the amortization meaning we will not be able to cut him for a couple years (and in the mean time it'll average out to the cheapest starter deal in the league so it isn't the end of the world if he's a backup for part of it if he flops and we find better) Edited October 24, 2016 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Right, and then we get him cash cheap for a few years after. As explained in like 14 threads the actual cash number means little beyond the amortization meaning we will not be able to cut him for a couple years (and in the mean time it'll average out to the cheapest starter deal in the league so it isn't the end of the world if he's a backup for part of it if he flops and we find better) Keep him + draft a QB I'm always against downgrading at quarterback when it is not necessary. Self inflicted wound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Right, and then we get him cash cheap for a few years after. As explained in like 14 threads the actual cash number means little beyond the amortization meaning we will not be able to cut him for a couple years (and in the mean time it'll average out to the cheapest starter deal in the league so it isn't the end of the world if he's a backup for part of it if he flops and we find better) But 27.5!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 But 27.5!!!! It's not ideal but it's not near as dramatic as he's making it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) It's not ideal but it's not near as dramatic as he's making it Yeah, I agree. I thought it was a very reasonable contract for a starting QB. He even gave us an out. If he was lighting it up this year, and we didn't lock him up, the fans would be going "Whaley asleep at the wheel, now we have to pay top dollar for Tyrod" Edited October 24, 2016 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8billsfan Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Definitely overpaid for him. His offensive weapons don't exist . Ex. No Sammy, Shady, or big receivers Mediocre O-Line. His accuracy has plummeted this year for mid to long range throws. WR depth is bad. This equates to him not being able to have a stellar offense behind him. Sammy was the guy we traded up to get and has yet to perform huge for us at all, just some flashy catches. Injuries are too familiar to Bills fans & players, which always hinders us at some point in a season. We've spent too much time on QB's NOT to have a franchise QB and that's the frustrating part. I mean look at the QBs we've had the last decade. Are you telling me it takes 10 years to get a good QB? No the Bills just played their cards WRONG. Don't get me wrong TT has wheels, has decent arm power/accuracy & a decent QB, but not a 28m QB. Edited October 24, 2016 by gr8billsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 This thread = reaching for reasons to blame Tyrod for the OL's ****ty performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) This thread = reaching for reasons to blame Tyrod for the OL's ****ty performance. It kind of flipped. Our line used to the ones to terrorize Tannehill, I seriously believe he feared us. That running game let him settle down and just make the passes he needed to. We need Dareus back. Edited October 24, 2016 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 It kind of flipped. Our line used to the ones to terrorize Tannehill, I seriously believe he feared us. That running game let him settle down and just make the passes he needed to. We need Dareus back. We were supposed to build a bully and we got bullied. Feels bad man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) This thread = reaching for reasons to blame Tyrod for the OL's ****ty performance.Always an excuse The other part is if the option is Picked up you are married to him for 2017 and 2018. 15.5 million Option Bonus, $12 million base salary become fully guaranteed on the 3rd league day of 2017 $13M 2018 salary becomes fully guaranteed on the 3rd league day of 2017 So thats actually 40.5M guaranteed on the 3rd day of league new year with 27.5M paid Edited October 24, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 That is the cash payout dye Tyrod on the 3rd day of next league year. When this rush contract for PR was done and it didnt need to be the pressure came on. I would be fine with Tyrods play this year if there wasnt a 27.5M cash payout and long term tie to him due 3 days after new year. But their is, and that makes his lack of development as a passer that much more intesified, and why posters like me have been very critical of him as a passer, because of this contract that did not need to be done. You do know even if he played well that contract was never going to stand. But poster like yourself aren't smart enough to know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 You do know even if he played well that contract was never going to stand. But poster like yourself aren't smart enough to know that. Arnt smart enough really. They cant do anything about the contract either pick up option or dont. Cant renegotiate it before the option is picked up. So again that it 40.5M guaranteed money on the third day of the 2017 league year or roughly March 7th 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Arnt smart enough really. They cant do anything about the contract either pick up option or dont. Cant renegotiate it before the option is picked up. So again that it 40.5M guaranteed money on the third day of the 2017 league year or roughly March 7th 2017 That is what they were always going to do... What in the world made you think anything else? The Bills put themselves in a win/win situation, if Tyrod plays well renegotiate his contract, if he plays badly either renegotiate his contract or cut him with no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) That is what they were always going to do... What in the world made you think anything else? The Bills put themselves in a win/win situation, if Tyrod plays well renegotiate his contract, if he plays badly either renegotiate his contract or cut him with no problems. They cant touch that contract until they pick up the option. So again 3rd day they make a choice to give 40.5M in guaranteed money Either way point remains, this contract put a microscope on Taylors lack of development as a thrower Edited October 24, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 They cant touch that contract until they pick up the option. So again 3rd day they make a choice to give 40.5M in guaranteed money No... Wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 No... Wrong No i am not. Cant touch a contract twice in same league year. That is why Clay had to wait a year before touching his. They cannot touch Taylors contract unless they pick up his option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 No i am not. Cant touch a contract twice in same league year. That is why Clay had to wait a year before touching his. They cannot touch Taylors contract unless they pick up his option The contract doesn't get much better for the Bills. I wish you could understand, maybe go look up some articles and close this thread until you know the details of the contract. If he plays poorly the Bills don't need to pay him... If he play well the Bills will restructure his contract to fit the cap needs... This isn't rocket science and it isn't that hard to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 The contract doesn't get much better for the Bills. I wish you could understand, maybe go look up some articles and close this thread until you know the details of the contract. If he plays poorly the Bills don't need to pay him... If he play well the Bills will restructure his contract to fit the cap needs... This isn't rocket science and it isn't that hard to understand. I know how the contract works there tough guy. 3rd day on new year they have to make a decision that will guarantee 40.5M over next two years. (After picking up option can they redo it? Yes but that typically means more guaranteed money up front or coverting Salary into a Bonus). Or they walk away. Point remains it is because of this contract (that didnt need to happen by the way did it?) That people rightfully are putting Taylors lack of passing development under a microscope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I know how the contract works there tough guy. 3rd day on new year they have to make a decision that will guarantee 40.5M over next two years. (After picking up option can they redo it? Yes but that typically means more guaranteed money up front or coverting Salary into a Bonus). Or they walk away. Point remains it is because of this contract (that didnt need to happen by the way did it?) That people rightfully are putting Taylors lack of passing development under a microscope. So you don't know what restructuring is? Maybe we should change this into a thread about EJ... Why are you worried anyway the way Taylor is playing we won't need him on the team next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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