/dev/null Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 Cameron letting the next Prime Minister file the article 50 request to leave the EU is another referendum. Voters can choose a for leave PM or remain http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-referendum-cameron-brexit-maybe-not-after-all/ I think you misunderstand how the Brits select their Prime Minister. The voters do not pick the PM. Parliament not enacting the Brexit would be like an American states Electoral College members not casting their vote for the winner of their state. Just cuz, well they know better than the great unwashed masses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I think you misunderstand how the Brits select their Prime Minister. The voters do not pick the PM. Parliament not enacting the Brexit would be like an American states Electoral College members not casting their vote for the winner of their state. Just cuz, well they know better than the great unwashed masses If you were an elected official and were anti-abortion, but your discrict was pro-choice, how would you vote when pro-choice legislation arrived at your desk? Your conscience that got you elected? Against your conscience and following the masses? Elected officials should do the former and the electorate can vote them out if they don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 If you were an elected official and were anti-abortion, but your discrict was pro-choice, how would you vote when pro-choice legislation arrived at your desk? Your conscience that got you elected? Against your conscience and following the masses? Elected officials should do the former and the electorate can vote them out if they don't like it. In a Representative Democracy, yes. Representatives are elected to vote on issues on the constituents behalf However a referendum is Direct Democracy. Elected representatives are bypassed and the issue is voted on directly by the voters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) interesting that this isn't hitting the news here: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/brexit-labour-mps-tell-corbyn-to-resign-in-uk-parliament/news-story/04c19f975315ead12f5d7d10a5e65c31?nk=ef7eb7962e56d6dfc7339f807fccb403-1467071197. parliament is a wreck. liberals in shadow cabinet resign en masse. wouldn't have known had i not gotten a call from the uk tonight. interesting, indeed. try this instead: http://labour shadow cabinet resignation Edited June 27, 2016 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 In a Representative Democracy, yes. Representatives are elected to vote on issues on the constituents behalf However a referendum is Direct Democracy. Elected representatives are bypassed and the issue is voted on directly by the voters You don't understand the Brexit referendum. It's not binding on the representatives. That's why I asked the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 You don't understand the Brexit referendum. It's not binding on the representatives. That's why I asked the question. Right, not a binding referendum. Like if Remain had won, that would not have been endorsed immediately by Parliament as the will of the people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 All those who are upset (referring to Brits, not those of us who've seen our 401k drop) should probably have (a) actually voted and/or (b) looked beyond the slogans and promises. As it turns out the pro-exit gang is now having to admit that just MAYBE they exaggerated on the financial glories of leaving the EU. Iceland. That's just piling on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 Texit? http://www.ijreview.com/2016/06/636421-every-american-states-brexit-nickname/ Tennesee-ya-later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 interesting that this isn't hitting the news here: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/brexit-labour-mps-tell-corbyn-to-resign-in-uk-parliament/news-story/04c19f975315ead12f5d7d10a5e65c31?nk=ef7eb7962e56d6dfc7339f807fccb403-1467071197. parliament is a wreck. liberals in shadow cabinet resign en masse. wouldn't have known had i not gotten a call from the uk tonight. interesting, indeed. try this instead: http://labour shadow cabinet resignation Uhm, it was all over the news that informed people read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Are you new? He's a fascist. Sure, but you can be a fascist without being a Nazi. I was just curious for clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) Uhm, it was all over the news that informed people read. umm, google shadow cabinet results in 2 us sources in the 1st 5 pages: huff post 1st and on page 4 politico. i'm guessing you waded through the weeds to the latter. can't see you huffing. so i presume informed people all read one of those 2 sources regularly. by that definition, ill bet there are few informed posters here. when i posted the bbc link it was about 4 hours old Edited June 28, 2016 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) Sure, but you can be a fascist without being a Nazi. I was just curious for clarification. You've obviously missed his white power posts. (No, I'm not kidding although I accused him of being a second hogboy.) Edited June 28, 2016 by Observer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 umm, google shadow cabinet results in 2 us sources in the 1st 5 pages: huff post 1st and on page 4 politico. i'm guessing you waded through the weeds to the latter. can't see you huffing. so i presume informed people all read one of those 2 sources regularly. by that definition, ill bet there are few informed posters here. when i posted the bbc link it was about 4 hours old umm, google shadow cabinet results in 2 us sources in the 1st 5 pages: huff post 1st and on page 4 politico. i'm guessing you waded through the weeds to the latter. can't see you huffing. so i presume informed people all read one of those 2 sources regularly. by that definition, ill bet there are few informed posters here. when i posted the bbc link it was about 4 hours old Considering it was in this morning's WSJ and Economist, you should update your news sources to papers that actually matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) Right, not a binding referendum. Like if Remain had won, that would not have been endorsed immediately by Parliament as the will of the people If REMAIN had won, no action would have been needed by Parliament if it wanted to follow the referendum. REMAIN is a vote for no change. Edited June 28, 2016 by Observer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 All those who are upset (referring to Brits, not those of us who've seen our 401k drop) should probably have (a) actually voted and/or (b) looked beyond the slogans and promises. As it turns out the pro-exit gang is now having to admit that just MAYBE they exaggerated on the financial glories of leaving the EU. Iceland. That's just piling on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) Considering it was in this morning's WSJ and Economist, you should update your news sources to papers that actually matter. the economist is , you know, a british publication, and a fine one. shadow cabinet and wsj gives no recent results but i rarely read it anyway. far too much conservative bias. murdoch's dirty fingerprints all over it. Edited June 28, 2016 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 interesting that this isn't hitting the news here: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/brexit-labour-mps-tell-corbyn-to-resign-in-uk-parliament/news-story/04c19f975315ead12f5d7d10a5e65c31?nk=ef7eb7962e56d6dfc7339f807fccb403-1467071197. parliament is a wreck. liberals in shadow cabinet resign en masse. wouldn't have known had i not gotten a call from the uk tonight. interesting, indeed. try this instead: http://labour shadow cabinet resignation It's been all over the news. What planet are you on? Iceland. That's just piling on. #Brexit2 If you haven't followed the Reykjavik Guardian's twitter account during the Euro...it's hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) It's been all over the news. What planet are you on? #Brexit2 If you haven't followed the Reykjavik Guardian's twitter account during the Euro...it's hilarious. England losing to Iceland isn't considered an upset. England are ****. Oh and just because I feel like posting it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Dv20-zXeVY Edited June 28, 2016 by meazza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 You've obviously missed his white power posts. (No, I'm not kidding although I accused him of being a second hogboy.) I've caught some, but I clearly wasn't in on the whole picture until that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 England losing to Iceland isn't considered an upset. England are ****. Oh and just because I feel like posting it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Dv20-zXeVY Great highlights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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