wnyguy Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: These laws are designed to suppress those protesting racism, white supremacy and demanding police accountability. Not if they are protesting peacefully.
Orlando Buffalo Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 3 hours ago, BillStime said: And YOU still wont back up your accusation. Why is that Tim? Do you only lie to build a case? Isn’t that what the GQP does? Yep You are lying because you know these laws will not help someone who plows into a crowd of protesters that way. I am confused about how else I would back it up.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 20 minutes ago, BillStime said: These laws are designed to suppress those protesting racism, white supremacy and demanding police accountability. You’re flapping your yap, but providing no text, wording or even legal analysis to support your position. I understand it’s fun to just toss crap against the wall, but I beseech you: Help me understand what you see. 19 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Don't hold your breathe. I've been waiting weeks for him to tell me what aspects of GA SB-202 are racist. He got so tired of me asking and not being able to answer it appears he has blocked me. Can't debate? Can't admit defeat? Plug your ears. Please point out what part of the law specifically targets protests against racism only? I know, but I’m back and forth having some hardwood floors refinished so I’m bored, or “board” as those folks say!
BillStime Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: You are lying because you know these laws will not help someone who plows into a crowd of protesters that way. I am confused about how else I would back it up. For a teacher, you have really poor reading comprehension. You make an accusation about me and I've asked several times for you to back it up... On 4/14/2021 at 11:30 AM, Buffalo Timmy said: My favorite was when you explained to me how I am too stupid to understand what it is like to be a teacher last August.
BillStime Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: You’re flapping your yap, but providing no text, wording or even legal analysis to support your position. I understand it’s fun to just toss crap against the wall, but I beseech you: Help me understand what you see. I know, but I’m back and forth having some hardwood floors refinished so I’m bored, or “board” as those folks say! So, out of the blue - red states are passing laws that basically criminalize protests? Are these laws not a direct result of the BLM protests that have been happening around the country? In Oklahoma - A motor vehicle operator who unintentionally causes injury or death to an individual shall not be criminally or civilly liable for the injury or death, if:ENR. H. B. NO. 1674 Page 3 1. The injury or death of the individual occurred while the motor vehicle operator was fleeing from a riot, as defined in Section 1311 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes, under a reasonable belief that fleeing was necessary to protect the motor vehicle operator from serious injury or death; and 2. The motor vehicle operator exercised due care at the time of the death or injury. These anti riot bills are aimed at punishing rioters and absolving the drivers who may hit them. Who decides "reasonable belief" in this situation? This is nothing more than a green light for nut jobs to plow through people - and it will happen - just wait and see.
B-Man Posted April 28, 2021 Author Posted April 28, 2021 People in Brooklyn Center feel differently about riots and looting than people in DC. “The respondents closest to the “unrest” aren’t very tolerant of the idea that riots and looting are acceptable forms of protest. In fact, they suggest the people who are doing those things are outside agitators and opportunists. Meanwhile, the folks who answered in DC repeatedly defend rioting as the last means of expressions for groups trying to make a point.” https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/04/27/daily-caller-people-in-brooklyn-center-feel-differently-about-riots-and-looting-than-people-in-dc-n386307
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, BillStime said: So, out of the blue - red states are passing laws that basically criminalize protests? Are these laws not a direct result of the BLM protests that have been happening around the country? In Oklahoma - A motor vehicle operator who unintentionally causes injury or death to an individual shall not be criminally or civilly liable for the injury or death, if:ENR. H. B. NO. 1674 Page 3 1. The injury or death of the individual occurred while the motor vehicle operator was fleeing from a riot, as defined in Section 1311 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes, under a reasonable belief that fleeing was necessary to protect the motor vehicle operator from serious injury or death; and 2. The motor vehicle operator exercised due care at the time of the death or injury. These anti riot bills are aimed at punishing rioters and absolving the drivers who may hit them. Who decides "reasonable belief" in this situation? This is nothing more than a green light for nut jobs to plow through people - and it will happen - just wait and see. You’ve stitched together quite a patchwork of random musings and supposition here, but ultimately you just have an ugly sweater that doesn’t fit. Yes, I would assume that the riots, chop zones, death and destruction precipitated changes to the law. We’ll gloss over the fact that many, many involved in the riots were white if it makes you feel better, but you’ve provided none of the the racially suggestive language you seem to imply is obvious. Still, your angle seems to be you have to die to be lawfully able to protect yourself while fleeing, and that’s a non-starter for me. Leh-nerd Snopes rates your claim “FALSE”. 1
aristocrat Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 55 minutes ago, BillStime said: So, out of the blue - red states are passing laws that basically criminalize protests? Are these laws not a direct result of the BLM protests that have been happening around the country? In Oklahoma - A motor vehicle operator who unintentionally causes injury or death to an individual shall not be criminally or civilly liable for the injury or death, if:ENR. H. B. NO. 1674 Page 3 1. The injury or death of the individual occurred while the motor vehicle operator was fleeing from a riot, as defined in Section 1311 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes, under a reasonable belief that fleeing was necessary to protect the motor vehicle operator from serious injury or death; and 2. The motor vehicle operator exercised due care at the time of the death or injury. These anti riot bills are aimed at punishing rioters and absolving the drivers who may hit them. Who decides "reasonable belief" in this situation? This is nothing more than a green light for nut jobs to plow through people - and it will happen - just wait and see. do you not know the meaning of the word unintentional? Kind of important in your post.
BillStime Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: You’ve stitched together quite a patchwork of random musings and supposition here, but ultimately you just have an ugly sweater that doesn’t fit. Yes, I would assume that the riots, chop zones, death and destruction precipitated changes to the law. We’ll gloss over the fact that many, many involved in the riots were white if it makes you feel better, but you’ve provided none of the the racially suggestive language you seem to imply is obvious. Still, your angle seems to be you have to die to be lawfully able to protect yourself while fleeing, and that’s a non-starter for me. Leh-nerd Snopes rates your claim “FALSE”. Just like @Chef Jim - there is no threshold that you will admit the true intentions of the law... to be expected from Trump supporters. 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: do you not know the meaning of the word unintentional? Kind of important in your post. Who defines unintentional? 1
aristocrat Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, BillStime said: Just like @Chef Jim - there is no threshold that you will admit the true intentions of the law... to be expected from Trump supporters. Who defines unintentional? websters 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, BillStime said: Just like @Chef Jim - there is no threshold that you will admit the true intentions of the law... to be expected from Trump supporters. Who defines unintentional? And you’re just like George Costanzo’s porn alter ego on Seinfeld, Buck Nekkid. Long on flourish, short on important details.
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 "Success will depend on a number of things, starting with getting access to the petitions in order to identify and target signers before the 30-day withdrawal period passes." https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-04-26/california-newsom-recall-nightmare-begins So basically, let's retaliate against people who think differently than us. 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, BillStime said: For a teacher, you have really poor reading comprehension. You make an accusation about me and I've asked several times for you to back it up... I am not going to go search for something that you would have deleted before challenging me. I can't believe you think I would put in the effort when you could simply delete it and then pretend it was never there.
BillStime Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I am not going to go search for something that you would have deleted before challenging me. I can't believe you think I would put in the effort when you could simply delete it and then pretend it was never there. What a liar... I have never said anything derogatory about teachers - and had I - YOU WOULD HAVE RESPONEDED then. Keep lying bro - it's what the GQP does!
Chef Jim Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 57 minutes ago, BillStime said: Just like @Chef Jim - there is no threshold that you will admit the true intentions of the law... to be expected from Trump supporters. It’s up to you to prove your interpretation of the law to prove your point. You have failed over and over to do so. I’ve listed over and over the true intentions of a certain law in GA. You’re worse than a die hard Trump supporter when it comes to admitting defeat.
BillStime Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: And you’re just like George Costanzo’s porn alter ego on Seinfeld, Buck Nekkid. Long on flourish, short on important details. It is fun watching you guys rally and defend the dustbin of the GQP - the party that validates your racism and xenophobia and that is worth everything to you.
Chef Jim Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 1 minute ago, BillStime said: It is fun watching you guys rally and defend the dustbin of the GQP - the party that validates your racism and xenophobia and that is worth everything to you. We’re racists because we challenge you calling a Bill racist when you have not been able to articulate what, in fact, makes it racist? Your logic is faulty at least, dangerous at most.
Orlando Buffalo Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, BillStime said: What a liar... I have never said anything derogatory about teachers - and had I - YOU WOULD HAVE RESPONEDED then. Keep lying bro - it's what the GQP does! I did respond then- why did you bold that? When did I say I did not respond then? You also say derogatory things to me all the time and I am a teacher, that is why you are a liar.
BillStime Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 Just now, Buffalo Timmy said: I did respond then- why did you bold that? When did I say I did not respond then? You also say derogatory things to me all the time and I am a teacher, that is why you are a liar. Prove it. It should be in your history from last August... that's when you said it happened. I'll wait.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, BillStime said: It is fun watching you guys rally and defend the dustbin of the GQP - the party that validates your racism and xenophobia and that is worth everything to you. You’re on to gibberish now. The only person fixated on race in this conversation is you, Buck. I asked you for evidence, you provided conspiratorial opinions and zero.zero-zero evidence of any kind. I asked, I waited, I was patient and to be candid, I was pretty sure you were full of shyt because if you had something, you would not have to post someone else’s opinion to prove your point. Why not just send the language you feel is so obvious? (I’ll answer here because you won’t find someone else’s opinion to post as your own—you can’t provide the language or evidence because there is none). Ironically your spin here is Q-worthy. You’re now Buck NeQQid.
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