LabattBlue Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 I believe that if he lays an egg in the next game or two and Losman continues to improve, that you may see the Bills cut Brown, make Losman #2 and bring in a journeyman at the vet minimum as your #3 prior to the season opener. I still don't know why Brown is brought back year after year?? What exactly has he done to warrant the repeated look in training camp after training camp? PROVE ME WRONG TRAVIS!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Brown is, was, and will always be a backup QB. If we are gonna experiment with letting anyone start, it should be Jonathon, not Travis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Why cut TB to get an older vet. Just keep him as the 3rd stringer. Are you saying that the Bills should be nice and let him get his opportunities with another team, since he's young? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 I agree with starting Travis Brown tomorrow and see what he can do. Travis has shown some good signs here and there, I still believe the Bills would be better off showing patience with Losman and they need to find out, can Travis Brown manage the offense for a 2 week span or so if DB goes down or is totally ineffective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 20, 2004 Author Share Posted August 20, 2004 Why cut TB to get an older vet. Just keep him as the 3rd stringer. Are you saying that the Bills should be nice and let him get his opportunities with another team, since he's young? 817[/snapback] No. I am saying that he was not shown much of anything in multiple training camps and if he can't turn turn in some impressive performances in the next 3 games, chalk him up as camp fodder and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 This is totally blowing my mind. Ok, no one wants Losman to start because it may hurt Bledsoes confidence... BUT, Losman is the only guy who has a legit chance of BEING the started at some point. Instead, you want to kill Bledsoe's confindence (which it shouldnt be too high anyway with his performance last year) and start a guy who will MAYBE stay on the roster as a backup? wow - I've heard it all now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven in MD Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Travis is Todd Collins. A nice backup to have just in case, but he will not lead the team. I have no problem with him being the #3, but I would be more comfortable with JP being #3 this season, and continuing to learn in the NFL. Bottom line, should Bledsoe get injuried, JP can still become the starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 20, 2004 Author Share Posted August 20, 2004 Travis is Todd Collins. A nice backup to have just in case, but he will not lead the team. I have no problem with him being the #3, but I would be more comfortable with JP being #3 this season, and continuing to learn in the NFL. Bottom line, should Bledsoe get injuried, JP can still become the starting QB. 823[/snapback] I could be wrong, but I thought the #2 QB in practices which lead up to a game gets significant reps, while the #3 sits there and runs the scout team mimicking the upcoming opponent. Which role would you rather see JP fill this year in preparation for 2005? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 You don't need him to start and play bad to know that Travis is never going to be more than a backup. It's only a matter of time before JP is officially #2. They're keeping TB around probably because they see him as a future #2 to JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Wait, clear this up for me...I am behind. Brown is starting tomorrow night? Or are you just saying he SHOULD start tomorrow night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 20, 2004 Author Share Posted August 20, 2004 Wait, clear this up for me...I am behind. Brown is starting tomorrow night? Or are you just saying he SHOULD start tomorrow night? 840[/snapback] It was reported that he would see playing time with the first team. I believe DB still starts and plays 1 or 2 series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 It was reported that he would see playing time with the first team. I believe DB still starts and plays 1 or 2 series. 842[/snapback] Oh, ok. Thanks for clearing that up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie wan Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 I could be wrong, but I thought the #2 QB in practices which lead up to a game gets significant reps, while the #3 sits there and runs the scout team mimicking the upcoming opponent. Which role would you rather see JP fill this year in preparation for 2005? 827[/snapback] JP will probably be the 3rd QB on game day, but will take the snaps as the #2 during practice. Unless Drew really craps the bed, it is unlikely he will ever be replaced, so the #2 QB on game day is really an emegency backup. If the game becomes a blowout either way, then the coaches cojld leapfrog Travis and put in JP for experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 This is totally blowing my mind. Ok, no one wants Losman to start because it may hurt Bledsoes confidence... BUT, Losman is the only guy who has a legit chance of BEING the started at some point. Instead, you want to kill Bledsoe's confindence (which it shouldnt be too high anyway with his performance last year) and start a guy who will MAYBE stay on the roster as a backup? wow - I've heard it all now . 821[/snapback] Holy stevestojan, that's a load of stevestojan, stevestojan! The Bills aren't NOT starting Losman because "it may hurt Bledsoe's confidence." Stop making stevestojan up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 TB can throw for 4 TDs and still everyone on this board would say he sucks! Why? Because he wasn't drafted in the first round. Because he's a backup. Because unless you are told a guy is good, he isn't good. I hope Travis gets cut, gets picked up by another team, becomes the starter, and wins a Super Bowl. Then we'll see all the "I wanted TB to start for the Bills..." posts come out then. I'll tell you this...right now, he's better than Bledsoe. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatonka12 Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 I believe that if he lays an egg in the next game or two and Losman continues to improve, that you may see the Bills cut Brown, make Losman #2 and bring in a journeyman at the vet minimum as your #3 prior to the season opener. I still don't know why Brown is brought back year after year?? What exactly has he done to warrant the repeated look in training camp after training camp?PROVE ME WRONG TRAVIS!!!!!!! 813[/snapback] I havent seen anything from travis either to warrant him still being here I would rather still have doughboy pelt here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyT Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 It tells me that the coaches want to move JP up to #2 and need to throw Brown into a game situation to validate the move. Either he does poorly and the coaches feel better about dropping him to #3, or he excels and actually deserves to be #2. I don't think Brown will be cut in any likely scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 I'll tell you this...right now, he's better than Bledsoe.PTR 881[/snapback] I know it's coming up on the weekend and everything, but you really should try to stay off the crackpipe once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 I havent seen anything from travis either to warrant him still being here I would rather still have doughboy pelt here 886[/snapback] All hail the V-Gun. They've been talking about having Murph and Alex's commentary on instead of whatever 8th string teleplay we generally get at this bar McFadden's, where the new york city folks come to watch the Bills. I hope they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Holy stevestojan, that's a load of stevestojan, stevestojan! The Bills aren't NOT starting Losman because "it may hurt Bledsoe's confidence." Stop making stevestojan up. 859[/snapback] Im not making it up.. thats what SEVERAL posters have said around here. grasping straws at finding a logical reason to keep Bledsoe in.. "if you bench him in preseason for a rookie, that would kill his confidence" I didnt just grab that out the the sky, it has been said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Im not making it up.. thats what SEVERAL posters have said around here. grasping straws at finding a logical reason to keep Bledsoe in.. "if you bench him in preseason for a rookie, that would kill his confidence" I didnt just grab that out the the sky, it has been said. 911[/snapback] I agree that's a pretty poor assessment. I think if the decision on a preseason starter is going to hurt Bledsoe's confidence we are in more trouble than we've ever bargained for. I think the reason Bledsoe should be starting preseason games is, it's a new coach, a modified system, a suspect O-Line, and we should see how he operates under more than simulated game conditions. He should be facing the #1 guys on the opposing defense so we can test this system. And he should do really well handing it off for 80% of the plays, in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 I still don't know why Brown is brought back year after year?? What exactly has he done to warrant the repeated look in training camp after training camp?PROVE ME WRONG TRAVIS!!!!!!! 813[/snapback] That is what in NFL parlance is "Cheap Labor"....He probably gets the Vet minimum salary. We had Van Pelt hold the clip board for so long.. AVP did not win many games for us when he started...How different is Travis Browns situation than AVPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 It was reported that he would see playing time with the first team. I believe DB still starts and plays 1 or 2 series. 842[/snapback] This somehow contradicts with what Bledsoe said yesterday about him and the 1st team staying on beyond the 1st qtr. If that were so, how would TB be with the 1st team. Also, I think preseason games 2 and 3 is when the 1st team should spend max time on the field.....I think TB gets to start in game 4 of preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TB Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Travis Brown has more potential to win than Bledsoe. Cut Bledsoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 I believe that if he lays an egg in the next game or two and Losman continues to improve, that you may see the Bills cut Brown, make Losman #2 and bring in a journeyman at the vet minimum as your #3 prior to the season opener. I still don't know why Brown is brought back year after year?? What exactly has he done to warrant the repeated look in training camp after training camp?PROVE ME WRONG TRAVIS!!!!!!! 813[/snapback] I don't get it either. I hope your potential scenario is correct... hate to wish any Bill bad luck, but I'd really prefer someone like a Shane Matthews on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 I don't get it either. I hope your potential scenario is correct...hate to wish any Bill bad luck, but I'd really prefer someone like a Shane Matthews on this team. 1596[/snapback] Me too. I've been touting him for a long time. He got stuck in the 'Skins Steve Spurrier QB-of-the-Week garbage season before last. His numbers: http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4719 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Me too. I've been touting him for a long time. He got stuck in the 'Skins Steve Spurrier QB-of-the-Week garbage season before last. His numbers: http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4719 1611[/snapback] I was thinking of your comments when I wrote that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 I was thinking of your comments when I wrote that! 1615[/snapback] He didn't get a regular season snap with the B'gals last season (Kitna took every one), but he played a lot in pre-season. And he looked VERY good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 This is totally blowing my mind. Ok, no one wants Losman to start because it may hurt Bledsoes confidence... BUT, Losman is the only guy who has a legit chance of BEING the started at some point. Instead, you want to kill Bledsoe's confindence (which it shouldnt be too high anyway with his performance last year) and start a guy who will MAYBE stay on the roster as a backup? wow - I've heard it all now . 821[/snapback] Yeah, I have to admit that this idea is every bit as bad as yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Two schools of thought: 1. Start Travis Brown because the Bills want to find out if he should be given serious consideration as a starter if Bledsoe falters. 2. Start Travis Brown because the Bills want to find out if he's worth carrying as a #2, or if it would make more sense to plug Losman into that role. I really don't know what the Bills are thinking on this one. I will be very interested in seeing how things turn out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 ok, start bledsoe. he's the starter for the season and he needs work. make loseman #3 till the season starts, then make him #2 for the regular season with travis collins as #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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