Gordio Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I really find it amusing that the anti-EJ crowd are pointing to the pass to Gragg while Gragg was positioned out of bounds as a reason why EJ should not get another chance. Why the !@#$ was Gragg waiting out of bounds? Isn't that something a TE/WR learns in pee wee football? Of course EJ will throw it to the open receiver. Does he have to check to make sure the TE is in bounds as well? Ridiculous! The other throws were on point (Woods, Easley, Hogan). Some people need to look at the other side of the argument. I think they meant the long pass down the seem. You know the one where Gragg was 10 yards behind his man & could of crawled into the endzone if EJ hit him on the run. Instead he threw the ball 8 yards short & Gragg barely caught it. But yes I had to laugh out loud when Gragg was standing out of bounds. Never saw that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I think they meant the long pass down the seem. You know the one where Gragg was 10 yards behind his man & could of crawled into the endzone if EJ hit him on the run. Instead he threw the ball 8 yards short & Gragg barely caught it. But yes I had to laugh out loud when Gragg was standing out of bounds. Never saw that before. Gragg over ran that route. That play (according to the graphic on the computer with Rich Gannon) was supposed to go up, over 5 yds, and up...Gragg went up, a quick over like 2 yds and then up, so he was wayyyy beyond where the ball was supposed to be for that play. EJ had it placed nicely and it netted us about 30 yds as I recall. Beggers can't be choosers I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I thought this was another tank the season thread. I thought the same. I have been a big EJ supporter, but he is a back up QB at best. It's Taylor's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) So you seriously think Tyrod friggin' Taylor is a long-term solution? You've got to be kidding me. I just don't get it. Through three starts, Taylor was the darling of the NFL. In his previous two starts, with no McCoy or Watkins in either game, he struggled to move the football. He also made one turnover in both of those games combined and it was an insane catch by the linebacker that wasn't even a bad throw. He also moved the football quite well in the second half against the Giants and then singlehandedly won the Titans game on a sprained MCL. So through five games, he has played at a level higher than Manuel has ever played yet you are writing him off entirely and then meanwhile, after 15 games, the jury was still out on Manuel? It just makes zero sense. Ya know, last week you said something about "compare Manuel's first 15 starts with hall of famers..." Such an easily refutable argument. Yeah, said hall of famers played in an era in which 26 TD's and 15 INT's could win you an MVP. Why don't you compare Manuel's numbers to a contemporary of his like, say, Mike Glennon? Or better yet, why don't you compare Taylor's first five games with any five game stretch EJ Manuel has ever played!?!?! The only possible explanation for your stance is that Manuel was a first round pick and Taylor was a sixth round pick. Manuel had/has "the tools." Well for one, Taylor was a better college QB than Manuel in the same conference. Secondly, if Manuel was drafted in the 3rd/4th round like most projected, my guess is that you would think about him a lot differently. Edited October 26, 2015 by metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 TT needs to start from here on out. EJ isn't the answer and now we need to see if TT can be. If not, it's a QB in the 1st next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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