eball Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Schopp (I know I know) said that his info is that Rex, pegs and Whaley (and the staff) all agreed upon and knew Fred was going to be cut. They just didn't know how or when. The "rogue" part is that he went ahead and did it monday morning and certain people were not in the loop on the timing. Wow, so Schopp is actually defending the Bills organization in a sense? Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) It will be a shame if Shady and Karlos Williams become the next Joe Piscopo. You young'uns won't remember this, but when the original Saturday Night Live cast moved on, the lead guy in the next gatch of cast members was a guy named Joe Piscopo. He wasn't bad, but he also wasn't Belushi, Aykroyd, Murray, etc. He once described himself as the most hated person in America. All because he followed some special and treasured actors. Shady and Karlos deserve to be thought of on their own, not as the guy who made Fred Jackson expendable. My sister called me the most hated person in America once. ONCE! Edited September 2, 2015 by mastershake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Wow, so Schopp is actually defending the Bills organization in a sense? Go figure. it was his "source" who told him this. He did say there must be someone in the org. who is trying to make Whaley look bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Game day roster was the single greatest factor. What do people imagine the coaching staff is considering at that conference table late into the night? Other than how cutting a player impacts a sponsor's ad campaign, of course. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'm thinking that one of the considerations in the decision to release Fred Jackson was who would be active on game days. Presuming that they keep 4 RBs, if they kept Fred the 4 RBs would have most likely been McCoy, Jackson, Dixon and Williams. Like last year, they probably only dress 3 on game days, and my guess that would have been: McCoy - obvious Williams - #2 back and special teams contributor Dixon - special teams and goal line runner They may have felt that taking the PR hit and releasing him so he could latch on somewhere else vs. the PR nightmare of him not suiting up on Sundays was the lesser of two evils. This may have been the "other considerations" that they alluded to. Boobie isn't a goal line runner but Karlos is. Look at his production inside the 20 at FSU, he was one of the best in college. That said Boobie can contribute as a ST defender but might see himself cut with the addition of Reddick. That or Reddick is the 2014 "Larry Dean". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 it was his "source" who told him this. He did say there must be someone in the org. who is trying to make Whaley look bad Now that IS interesting. When Marroon did his quit-tation, wasn't he quoted as "trashing" the Bills organization to Polian saying something to the effect that there were "lifers" in the Bill's Front Office who had a "this is the way we've always done it" culture and opposed efforts by Whaley and Marrone to change the way things were done? Marrone hit the road, Littmann is gone, but a number of others are still here.....these would be guys who were here when Brandon was the effective GM and the FO/money guys were heavily involved in player personnel decisions. I could easily see people like that getting in a snit because Whaley is doing things the New Way according to the new organizational structure, a PR sh*tstorm bursts under their nose, and they decide to get back at Whaley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Now that IS interesting. When Marroon did his quit-tation, wasn't he quoted as "trashing" the Bills organization to Polian saying something to the effect that there were "lifers" in the Bill's Front Office who had a "this is the way we've always done it" culture and opposed efforts by Whaley and Marrone to change the way things were done? Marrone hit the road, Littmann is gone, but a number of others are still here.....these would be guys who were here when Brandon was the effective GM and the FO/money guys were heavily involved in player personnel decisions. I could easily see people like that getting in a snit because Whaley is doing things the New Way according to the new organizational structure, a PR sh*tstorm bursts under their nose, and they decide to get back at Whaley. Not that I don't agree but that would be a bold move by the said party and would likely be a career killer if they did an internal investigation. I can't think that more than a handful of guys would end up being in that lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Correct. Bryce Brown can be a quality, backup to McCoy and does not need to dress on game day. Can you imagine the Bills keeping Fred and not dressing him? You thought cutting him was bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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