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  1. 1. Are you in favor of changing PAT rule?

    • Yes. It was implemented in 1912 and is a non-competitive play. 103 years is about time.
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    • No. It's just change for the sake of change.
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    • It depends on what the change actually ends up being.
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Competition committee chairman Rich McKay will work with several head coaches over the next 30 days to devise a plan for improving the extra point, and the owners will vote on it at the next round of owners meetings in May in San Francisco.

 

Are you in favor of changing the extra point? If so what change what you recommend?

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I voted no because I didn't want to abstain. I'd like to see them move it to the 1 yard line (there is a proposal on the table for the 1 1/2 yard line). I think that the 1 point should be virtually automatic but I think at the 1 you would see a lot more people going for 2 like Urban Meyer does.

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I voted no because I didn't want to abstain. I'd like to see them move it to the 1 yard line (there is a proposal on the table for the 1 1/2 yard line). I think that the 1 point should be virtually automatic but I think at the 1 you would see a lot more people going for 2 like Urban Meyer does.

he only goes for 2 because he isn't allowed to go for 3.
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They are putting too much power in the hands of the kickers. Now we have a kick off specialist because we need touch backs. What's next? Using a 1st round pick on a franchise kicker? Football isn't about kickers. Let the games be settled by the real players on the field

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They are putting too much power in the hands of the kickers. Now we have a kick off specialist because we need touch backs. What's next? Using a 1st round pick on a franchise kicker? Football isn't about kickers. Let the games be settled by the real players on the field

but we have a franchise kicker. Who needs a qb?! It's a kicker league! SB!
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I voted no because I didn't want to abstain. I'd like to see them move it to the 1 yard line (there is a proposal on the table for the 1 1/2 yard line). I think that the 1 point should be virtually automatic but I think at the 1 you would see a lot more people going for 2 like Urban Meyer does.

I voted for option three, and you stated my reasoning perfectly.

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I voted at #1. It's been perfected over the years. Not so much the kicking technique as the blocking schemes. 'Ya simply can't get there from here.' As for how they do it, in be fine with anything, 1yrd line, 15 yrd line or TD's count 7 and you can try for 2points

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I think the kick should be dispensed with entirely. For the XP, teams should convert the current 2 pt conversion. It'll be a lot tougher to get 7. If you want to still include a 2 pt conversion, make the starting point from the 7 and a half yard line.

 

Anything that reduces the involvement of place kickers - especially when they're kicking at a short range - is all to the good, in my opinion.

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They are putting too much power in the hands of the kickers. Now we have a kick off specialist because we need touch backs. What's next? Using a 1st round pick on a franchise kicker? Football isn't about kickers. Let the games be settled by the real players on the field

 

We don't need a KO specialist....

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I voted maybe. Making the PAT would make things more boring not less. It would take away the dilemma of going for 2 because it would basically force everyone to go for 2 and there would be no risk in making the 2pt try. Right now, there is conflict because it forces the bird in hand dilemma where there is a possibility of walking off the field with only six points not 7 or 8. Also I'm a purist, it would have to make a ton of sense for me to be on board.

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No. Humans have this incessant need to relieve their boredom by messing with things that don't need to be messed with. This is how we end up with thousands of counterproductive laws on the books, how businesses waste billions of dollars making ill-advised mergers and acquisitions, and how stupid rules get put into sports.

 

You know what else in football is boring? Punts. You see punts blocked about as often as you see a missed PAT. So how about a rule that only allows the punting team ten men on the field? Gee, sure would make it more 'exciting' but would be a pretty stupid !@#$ing idea. Just like all these proposed PAT changes.

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I voted yes...get rid of it....they should eliminate KO's too....start at the 20 yd line.....get rid of punts too....you can opt out of 4th down so the opponent starts on their 35......NO FG's allowed inside the 30....HA..I hate the kicking game!

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I voted no because I didn't want to abstain. I'd like to see them move it to the 1 yard line (there is a proposal on the table for the 1 1/2 yard line). I think that the 1 point should be virtually automatic but I think at the 1 you would see a lot more people going for 2 like Urban Meyer does.

I concur, I think that this lessens the risk of the 2pt conversion, but doesnt eliminate it. Ball-less coaches like Marrone would continue to be ball-less and other HCs might try and go for it more often. This weeds out those with spines and those without

I voted yes...get rid of it....they should eliminate KO's too....start at the 20 yd line.....get rid of punts too....you can opt out of 4th down so the opponent starts on their 35......NO FG's allowed inside the 30....HA..I hate the kicking game!

To be blunt: WTF? I hope this is sarcasm... This would me more interesting I guess, but it also wouldnt be football. No pinning the opponent at the 1. No gam winning field goal drives where the kicker makes a chip shot with seconds left after a crazy catch. No crazy kick returns where the returner takes it to the house to win the game like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9prEhmGafqM. What kind of screwed up world would this be.

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I concur, I think that this lessens the risk of the 2pt conversion, but doesnt eliminate it. Ball-less coaches like Marrone would continue to be ball-less and other HCs might try and go for it more often. This weeds out those with spines and those without

To be blunt: WTF? I hope this is sarcasm... This would me more interesting I guess, but it also wouldnt be football. No pinning the opponent at the 1. No gam winning field goal drives where the kicker makes a chip shot with seconds left after a crazy catch. No crazy kick returns where the returner takes it to the house to win the game like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9prEhmGafqM. What kind of screwed up world would this be.

 

How would eliminating four different kinds of plays make the game more interesting? What he suggests is two steps away from a puntpass, pass and kick pass contest. It's bad enough they've taken away the ability to play defense.

 

It's amazing to me how many people claim to be diehard football fans yet can't wait to change the game in any way possible.

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How would eliminating four different kinds of plays make the game more interesting? What he suggests is two steps away from a puntpass, pass and kick pass contest. It's bad enough they've taken away the ability to play defense.

 

It's amazing to me how many people claim to be diehard football fans yet can't wait to change the game in any way possible.

It would be interesting because it would be a completely different sport. You agree with me though, right? He is crazy

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