YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 @JasonLaCanfora: As reported earlier this week, look for Charlie Weis to be among the possibilities to replace Shanahan in CLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Well, everyone on this board and most everyone in the national media thinks he did well. So there's that. Well if we believed the National Media Marrone would have been a hotter commodity and the next Parcells. Edited January 8, 2015 by Beef Jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 @JasonLaCanfora: As reported earlier this week, look for Charlie Weis to be among the possibilities to replace Shanahan in CLE Poor Pettine. He will experience the same thing that made him the HC, no one else would dare come there so they are stuck with something named Charlie Weiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Hoyer is a UFA right? Thus easier to get for the Bills then trading freaking Dareus in some fantasy land trade. Potentially Mike becomes HC; Kyle OC; Hoyer signs with Bills? Could be an option I'm not sure I'd be upset with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Hoyer is a UFA right? Thus easier to get for the Bills then trading freaking Dareus in some fantasy land trade. Potentially Mike becomes HC; Kyle OC; Hoyer signs with Bills? Could be an option I'm not sure I'd be upset with. I think Hoyer stinks for the most part. Not stinks but extremely average. But I also think that both Shannys could get a decent offense out of the Bills with him. Not a great one but a good enough one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I think Hoyer stinks for the most part. Not stinks but extremely average. But I also think that both Shannys could get a decent offense out of the Bills with him. Not a great one but a good enough one. But especially in the aforementioned scenario, is much better than the backup currently on our roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) I think a pretty decent argument could be made for the Browns having the least offensive talent in the league. Thomas, Mack and Bitonio are nice pieces, but Gordon & Cameron missed a lot of time and though Crowell and Hawkins are decent bit players there's not much else to speak of there. as did Mack... In fact once he went down they never replaced him effectively and it hurt the running game significantly which made that offense go early in the year. Edited January 8, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I posted this in another thread: The Houston Texans were #4 & #1 in passing in 2008-09 with Kyle as OC. Hard to believe that Schaub was the QB of that offense. When Kyle went to Washington in 2010 they were #8 with an aging Mcnabb. Then #14 in 2011 withGrossman. Seems like he knows how to work with lesser than QBs successfully. Seems to me Kyle did well until this last year with crappy QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 But especially in the aforementioned scenario, is much better than the backup currently on our roster. Yeah, im not too crazy about Tuel time either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Yeah, im not too crazy about Tuel time either. And yeah, to allay any confusion, that's who I was referring to, assuming Shanny can do with EJ what he's done with other middling QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I wouldn't be opposed to Hoyer, so long as he knows it's no guaranteed starting job. I think he'd be a good guy to have in the QB room, he's guy who gets being a pro, just doesn't have the physical tools to pull off being a 16 game starter. EJ, Hoyer and a developmental prospect from rounds 3-5 would certainly be better than what we had in house 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I don't have a problem with Kyle as OC as long as his father is not the HC, because if Kyle doesn't work out you have to fire both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Hoyer is a UFA right? Thus easier to get for the Bills then trading freaking Dareus in some fantasy land trade. Potentially Mike becomes HC; Kyle OC; Hoyer signs with Bills? Could be an option I'm not sure I'd be upset with. I think Hoyer stinks for the most part. Not stinks but extremely average. But I also think that both Shannys could get a decent offense out of the Bills with him. Not a great one but a good enough one. It might actually be the best (feasible) plan. Bc Kyles offense would be good for EJ too IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) I wouldn't be opposed to Hoyer, so long as he knows it's no guaranteed starting job. I think he'd be a good guy to have in the QB room, he's guy who gets being a pro, just doesn't have the physical tools to pull off being a 16 game starter. EJ, Hoyer and a developmental prospect from rounds 3-5 would certainly be better than what we had in house 2 years ago. Hoyers talent is on par or maybe worse that Orton IMO ... But he has a ton more heart and is more mobile as well. I wouldn't mind signing him to compete in camp. Would like to see what he could go with these WRs. Edited January 8, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 This can only mean one thing Shanahan,Shanahan and Johnny Manziel CUTTY in Buffalo. fix'd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) And yeah, to allay any confusion, that's who I was referring to, assuming Shanny can do with EJ what he's done with other middling QB's. Yeah, i think Hoyer could add some positive locker room presence, and offer competition to the QB position. I view his performance as similar to Kyle Ortons but maybe with a little more character where hes not gonna pull the plug five minutes after the last game every season. Plus, it would be hysterical to leave Pettine in Cleveland with only JFF on his roster as QB. Edited January 8, 2015 by mastershake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Yeah, i think Hoyer could add some positive locker room presence, and offer competition to the QB position. I view his performance as similar to Kyle Ortons but maybe with a little more character where hes not gonna pull the plug five minutes after the last game every season. Plus, it would be hysterical to leave Pettine in Cleveland with only JFF on his roster as QB. yep. I'm not in love with hoyer's ceiling but he has a mega chip on his shoulder to prove he can play in the league. Orton never seemed to care.He would be a band aid but they would need another FA too I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Would love to see Kyle as OC here. Considering his numbers with the QBs he's had, he's exactly the kind of guy to "develop EJ" as Whaley wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Hoyers talent is on par or maybe worse that Orton IMO ... But he has a ton more heart and is more mobile as well. I wouldn't mind signing him to compete in camp. Would like to see what he could go with these WRs. Yeah, i think Hoyer could add some positive locker room presence, and offer competition to the QB position. I view his performance as similar to Kyle Ortons but maybe with a little more character where hes not gonna pull the plug five minutes after the last game every season. Plus, it would be hysterical to leave Pettine in Cleveland with only JFF on his roster as QB. Totally agreed on the talent : heart ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 At this point, with whats available, id just like to see them bring in highly competitive character guys, no world beaters available. So we just need some team player types, that could push each other to be the best they can. Without looking up stats, if i recall, Hoyer dosent have great stats, but does have a pretty decent win loss percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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