Observer Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I agree. Which is why it should be eye opening to see how this is being spun in the corporate media and by the political talking heads. The conditioning is what's important to track. This is an intentional conditioning operation (for the sake of using the most controversial language), facts be dammed. This is terrorism and thus federal powers must be expanded. And funding. And citizens' rights must be abridged for the greater good. It's been the meme since 2001. And it works. How else can you explain this thread where we have a bunch of folks arguing the inalieble rights of the second amendment in response to gun control -- yet he same folks (by and large) are silent on defending our inalienable right to privacy and due process? One has been sold to the public as a necessary means to keep people safe by both sides of the political spectrum -- the other as a wedge issue. I heard it on the radio and only some really sketchy sites have picked it up so it might be bollocks. Thank for less annoyingly filling the shoes Dwight Drane left for so long unfilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 So if I pledge allegiance to ISIS before I shoot my neighbor's dog for crapping on my lawn, I'm a terrorist? This guy may have just been an unhinged repressed homosexual with an upbringing that gave him enough vocabulary to sympathize with ISIS. Or he may have thought he was doing something important for ISIS. He doesn't come across as particularly bright. On that note, let me take a moment to express how INFINITELY better this board is without Gator and Jim doing their mating dance in every thread. Whoever put a stop to that, cheers. What happened to them? Banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Why do you think he was definitely gay? What do you know that is absolutely proof? Those selfies are pretty damning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 If they murder a room full of people are they very Islamic? Lol. Got me. No. Of course not. Those selfies are pretty damning. lol. That and he's been there dozens of times. Was he staking it out? Doubt it. You don't get drunk on a stakeout. You don't join gay apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 The dude was definitely gay. I don't know any terrorists, but it's safe to say they don't frequent gay clubs and get drunk. If they do they're not very Islamic, are they? I, too, believe that he was gay. But that just takes "hate crime" off the table. He basically chose a location that he often frequented, knew the layout well, and knew that he could kill a lot of people. The man was a contradiction, sure. To be both extremely gay and a devout Muslim. Irresistible force meets immovable object. And we found out what won out. Islam > his gayness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) I, too, believe that he was gay. But that just takes "hate crime" off the table. He basically chose a location that he often frequented, knew the layout well, and knew that he could kill a lot of people. The man was a contradiction, sure. To be both extremely gay and a devout Muslim. Irresistible force meets immovable object. And we found out what won out. Islam > his gayness. You couldn't be more wrong. If he was Islamic he wouldn't have killed anybody. Edited June 14, 2016 by Justice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Until I hear otherwise I'm sticking with my theory. Somewhere in his sick and twisted mind he didn't want to be known as gay, so he decided to shoot up his favorite gay club. He was definitely hiding the fact he was gay because he drove so far away to visit one on the regular. He didn't want to run into anybody that knew him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 The dude was definitely gay. I don't know any terrorists, but it's safe to say they don't frequented Loom gay clubs and get drunk. If they do they're not very Islamic, are they? Mohammed Attah celebrated the pre-mission trip by getting pissed drink at a strip joint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Mohammed Attah celebrated the pre-mission trip by getting pissed drink at a strip joint My point exactly. These people aren't Muslim. I'm sure anybody here that's religious or at least informed about religion know for a fact you can't laugh in God's face. We all know how it works when you repent. It has to be straight from the heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 My point exactly. These people aren't Muslim. I'm sure anybody here that's religious or at least informed about religion know for a fact you can't laugh in God's face. We all know how it works when you repent. It has to be straight from the heart. What would make him a Muslim or not a Muslim? There are plenty of Christians (people baptized as such and also who attend church services all their lives) who one day decide to kill some people. They're Christians. Bad ones but Christians none the less. Today's crazy Muslims are simply bad ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 What would make him a Muslim or not a Muslim? There are plenty of Christians (people baptized as such and also who attend church services all their lives) who one day decide to kill some people. They're Christians. Bad ones but Christians none the less. Today's crazy Muslims are simply bad ones. Islam is a way of life. You have to practice it in order to be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 You couldn't be more wrong. If he was Islamic he wouldn't have killed anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Yeah, well I hope this never happens because if it does, us citizens are serious toast because we are way outgunned and it ain't even close. I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) Yeah. GTFOOH with this crap. Mathematically impossible and I'll tell you why. I know 100s of Muslims and none of them are radicals. Not a single one. If this guy was correct then odds are heavily in favor of me knowing one. Edited June 14, 2016 by Justice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Islam is a way of life. You have to practice it in order to be one. Someone Google No True Scotsman. That's why FireChan thinks we should all have VX and a few citizens armed with nukes. We all can't afford them, dummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Islam is a way of life. You have to practice it in order to be one. Like the Islamic study group he went to 3 times a week when he wasn't playing w men's buttholes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Like the Islamic study group he went to 3 times a week when he wasn't playing w men's buttholes ? What does that tell me? Absolutely nothing. It's what you do behind closed doors that define you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 14, 2016 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 Mediaite @Mediaite 2h2 hours ago What The Heck?! Reporters Allowed to Casually Tour Orlando Killer's Apartment http://bit.ly/24PeeCm (VIDEO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 We all can't afford them, dummy. Too bad, amiright? Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 What does that tell me? Absolutely nothing. It's what you do behind closed doors that define you. So you're saying he's not a Muslim. He just went to a Muslim study group 3x a week for ***** and giggles ? What do you know about this Mohammed guy who took hostages at a Walmart in Texas ? What about the guy who tortured the French policemans wife in front of her son and streamed the whole thing to Facebook. What was their deal ? They were Muslim. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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