Corp000085 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I would be surprised if the Bills aren't insured for most if not all of this money. Also, this out clause was disclosed during the bidding process. The $4M was, or should have been, budgeted into the bill of sale between the Wilson trust and the Pegulas. As far as pocket change, it's most likely a wash. For terry and Kim, this is "cost of business". I wonder what kind of golden parachute Brandon has in his contract. Maybe that is part of the reason why he's not already gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Also, this out clause was disclosed during the bidding process. The $4M was, or should have been, budgeted into the bill of sale between the Wilson trust and the Pegulas. As far as pocket change, it's most likely a wash. For terry and Kim, this is "cost of business". I wonder what kind of golden parachute Brandon has in his contract. Maybe that is part of the reason why he's not already gone. While 4m is a lot of friggin money, and should be to anyone, the Pegulas basically spent 400m more than they had to, for no reason. I doubt it means anything to them. Plus, they owed him 8m. With what they found out about his arrogance, both in the meeting and in the subsequent days, I'm sure they look at it as saving 4m. If they fired him, they would have paid him 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OP Class75 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 An interesting article....I particularly found interesting the statement: "...The NFL has to quietly intervene to resolve these disputes in more cases than most fans really know..." You mean it's not all happy and lovely in the NFL???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Ralph wouldn't have paid it out without a fight, you can bet your life. He would hold back the $4M, and tell Camp Marrone that they believe there was tampering, if not breaches of fiduciary duty (undermining Whaley during the season, making decisions based on his own best interests and not the teams', etc.). Ralph would've forced Marrone to sue for the payout and would counter-claim to force a settlement somewhere below $4M; at the very least the league would have to intervene and negotiate a resolution. Ralph was such a dick when he wanted to be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) So Dougie opts out n gets to do nuffin, if he so chooses or coach.4M Or, as it seems a lot of fans wanted him gone,fired! Well. 8M So he saved us 4M. I think we won. especially since we r hearing more n more how he is a richard. Edited January 8, 2015 by snamsnoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martifal Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I said essentially the same thing this morning in one of the "why is this taking so long" threads...the Bills are getting free advice from every candidate about how to fix that offense. What they need 14 people to tell them they need two guards and a quarterback.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffalo Ills Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 But not his owner. The new owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Ralph wouldn't have paid it out without a fight, you can bet your life. He would hold back the $4M, and tell Camp Marrone that they believe there was tampering, if not breaches of fiduciary duty (undermining Whaley during the season, making decisions based on his own best interests and not the teams', etc.). Ralph would've forced Marrone to sue for the payout and would counter-claim to force a settlement somewhere below $4M; at the very least the league would have to intervene and negotiate a resolution. Ralph was such a dick when he wanted to be... Ralph reacted badly when he thought he was dealing with someone who was not loyal and/or was downright deceitful. I remember when he tried to get John Butler resigned and Butler balked. I think Ralph sensed a man that was ready to flee. Given the salary cap issues to be dealt with, his "opting out" to San Diego was even more attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Ralph wouldn't have paid it out without a fight, you can bet your life. He would hold back the $4M, and tell Camp Marrone that they believe there was tampering, if not breaches of fiduciary duty (undermining Whaley during the season, making decisions based on his own best interests and not the teams', etc.). Ralph would've forced Marrone to sue for the payout and would counter-claim to force a settlement somewhere below $4M; at the very least the league would have to intervene and negotiate a resolution. Ralph was such a dick when he wanted to be... Ralph was a dishonest bitter petty cheapskate who never spent enough money on this team to keep it competitive, what he and his minions like Jeff Littman did to Polian, Butler and Wade Phillips was shameful and a big part of the reason there hasn't been a play-off game at Rich Stadium since 1996. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Ralph was a dishonest bitter petty cheapskate who never spent enough money on this team to keep it competitive, what he and his minions like Jeff Littman did to Polian, Butler and Wade Phillips was shameful and a big part of the reason there hasn't been a play-off game at Rich Stadium since 1996. Go easy my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 "...with all due respect to Marrone, he is not Bill Parcels." Could it be that Brandon and Whaley realized this as well--and never in their wildest imagination believed a rookie NFL head coach with Marrone's pedigree would ever exercise that clause. So why argue over it and bog down negotiations? The odds of the opt-out happening had to be single digits. But then again, lightning strikes do happen... A change of ownership opt-out was likely to be asked for by anyone that took the job. ESP someone like Marrone who had gotten other interviews. Any coach was going to want some sort of get out of jail free card so to speak. The odds of someone opting out after being offered an extension was so low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Good management, flipping burgers to running an NFL organization, is largely about being able to predict what potential consequences could happen in the future as a result of the actions you take now. Weighing those consequences against the potential benefits and determining what the best course of action is. This is not an easy skill, not for one man or a group of advisors. It takes a special way of thinking to not only predict what potential future events could ocur but at what liklihood is the chance they will. In sum, the Bills failed in this regard when it pertains to the negotiation of Marrones contract. Edited January 8, 2015 by KzooMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Ralph reacted badly when he thought he was dealing with someone who was not loyal and/or was downright deceitful. I remember when he tried to get John Butler resigned and Butler balked. I think Ralph sensed a man that was ready to flee. Given the salary cap issues to be dealt with, his "opting out" to San Diego was even more attractive. Ralph also offered Butler a contract that was far below market rate. Butler was a good GM. What Ralph did was the definition of penny wise and pound foolish. In his first draft with SD, he picked cornerstone players - Tomlinson and Brees. Of course, Brees left, but after Butler passed away. Both are first ballot hall of famers. Edited January 8, 2015 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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