1B4IDie Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) So far Whaley has had Morrone's back and Morrone has had his Coordinator's back (Hackett and Crossman) The way these things play out is the GM puts on pressure to make a coordinator change and the head coach either stands firm and goes down with the ship or sacrifices the coordinator for another year. Now that the season is over it'll be interesting to see how this plays out. I bet Morrone stands firm and won't fire his little Buddy Hackett and gets **** canned, giving Whaley another year at GM. Edited November 14, 2014 by Why So Serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I still don't see how people are pegging Whaley as part of the problem. the problems are with Hackett and Marrone. Whaley isn't even on my list of problems with this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Whaley is a fantastic GM and if hes fired Pegula should probably move the team to Toronto or LA or London because hes an idiot and we will continue to suck forever anyway so who cares Marrone and Hackett should go.... is there ANY WAY that marrone/hackett can get fired in the offseason, and we hire a new head coach but keep Schwartz as DC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 Whaley is a fantastic GM and if hes fired Pegula should probably move the team to Toronto or LA or London because hes an idiot and we will continue to suck forever anyway so who cares Marrone and Hackett should go.... is there ANY WAY that marrone/hackett can get fired in the offseason, and we hire a new head coach but keep Schwartz as DC? That is possible but unlikely. Our Buddy Haslett survived the Shanahans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I still don't see how people are pegging Whaley as part of the problem. the problems are with Hackett and Marrone. Whaley isn't even on my list of problems with this team. Whaley I know look what a killer job he has done with the QB position? The o- line too. Signing veteran LG guard scrubs two years in a row. makes one wonder what genius QB move he will make next year a week or two before regular season starts. The he's from the steelers narrative may have run it's course. For me I am now officially on the bring in the chin bandwagon. GM, coach, consultant whatever. This team needs some football FO talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Brandon spoke out in favor of continuity... Is he going to back down from that to save himself if Pegula wants coaching changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 I still don't see how people are pegging Whaley as part of the problem. the problems are with Hackett and Marrone. Whaley isn't even on my list of problems with this team. I personally don't want Whaley to go but if Branden puts pressure on Whaley to put pressure on Marrone to **** can his little buddy and Whaley says "no" we need one more year. Then it becomes a Branden vs Whaley issue. Again I'm not proposing anything specific just watching this accident happening in slow motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 The he's from the steelers narrative may have run it's course. For me I am now officially on the bring in the chin bandwagon. GM, coach, consultant whatever. This team needs some football FO talent. Its a major culture problem with the organization. It is rotten. Suggesting continuity is a joke. We are seeing the same identical pattern as past seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Its a major culture problem with the organization. It is rotten. Suggesting continuity is a joke. We are seeing the same identical pattern as past seasons. Well, then, he is successful from a "continuity" standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I personally don't want Whaley to go but if Branden puts pressure on Whaley to put pressure on Marrone to **** can his little buddy and Whaley says "no" we need one more year. Then it becomes a Branden vs Whaley issue. Again I'm not proposing anything specific just watching this accident happening in slow motion. This I agree with. if Whaley refuses to get ride of Marrone, then Whaley is taking the bullet and he must go as well. Whaley I know look what a killer job he has done with the QB position? The o- line too. Signing veteran LG guard scrubs two years in a row. makes one wonder what genius QB move he will make next year a week or two before regular season starts. The he's from the steelers narrative may have run it's course. For me I am now officially on the bring in the chin bandwagon. GM, coach, consultant whatever. This team needs some football FO talent. What's the issue? he drafted a QB that wasn't supposed to start, was supposed to grow and develop behind Kolb and that didn't happen. the OL, how many good LG's were just sitting around waiting to be signed? Not many if any at all. He's made his moves and sticks to his guns on trying to improve the team. Wasn't he the one who pulled off the trade for Hughes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bananathumb Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I really don't believe that Terry and Kim Pegula can solve the Buffalo puzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 you know my obvious vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Pegula. ... What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted William's frozen head Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Brandon spoke out in favor of continuity... One just has to look at the last 15 years to realize that continuity is a bad idea, sometimes.. I really don't believe that Terry and Kim Pegula can solve the Buffalo puzzle. The Pegulas have something called 'serious bank'. No more 'on the cheap' moves for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaltimoreFanBills Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 There has been only one constant in the Bills organization since 1996/1997 and that's Brandon. He needs to go. The culture at in the organization needs to change and it starts at the top. Its the "Tone at the Top" theory. Once he goes the new person can bring in or keep the people he wants and the culture will change. Until then we will be the same old Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 What's the issue? he drafted a QB that wasn't supposed to start, was supposed to grow and develop behind Kolb and that didn't happen. the OL, how many good LG's were just sitting around waiting to be signed? Not many if any at all. He's made his moves and sticks to his guns on trying to improve the team. Wasn't he the one who pulled off the trade for Hughes? The issue was his back up plan. meaning he had none. A career QB who made of glass predictably got hurt. walking on a slippery mat no less. After that? Nothing. Not even hiring a QB coach for the rookie kid year one. Very amateur. Then, Playing scrubs behind him as to not upset his "confidence" Even drafting EJ as a "project" at 16 was universally panned. Even by King Polian himself. The LG position. Well, if you knew for a year Levitre was walking, Where was the backup plan besides dumster diving ( which he did two year in a row). Sorry, Whaley has proved nothing. The Hughes trade? yea, he scored on that by dumb effing luck. it was a swap a bust trade. Don't say he knew Hughes would pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MDH Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I don't want Marrone to go mostly because I don't want Schwartz to go and it's highly unlikely he stays on if a coaching change is made. With the talent on this D the last thing I want is a 3rd defensive system in 3 years. Hackett needs to go if he can't quickly get this offense turned around. I'm tired of the excuses or the "the fans don't see what we see" crap. I do see the exact same thing he sees - an offense that can't put up points. Everything else is just an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I still don't see how people are pegging Whaley as part of the problem. the problems are with Hackett and Marrone. Whaley isn't even on my list of problems with this team. Who hired Marrone? Who hired Whaley? Did they just drop out of the sky over OBD and start as HC and GM? Or could it be that, as I suspect, Brandon is behind these moves. It's the same issue that's plagued OBD for years: inferior (and unqualified) senior management making bad decisions on football people, coaches, players, et al. It remains impossible for the Bills to keep hiring bad coaches without something pointing to management above the coaching level. And I get that someone will say no one wants to work here, or that they can't be perfect in their decision making, but at some point this organization needs to string together a few good decisions in a row. But with new and younger owners in charge, something at the highest level needs to change. Or else this cycle of failure will continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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