YoloinOhio Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 $$$$$ @SportsCenter: The Bucs make Gerald McCoy the NFL's highest paid DT with 7-year, $98 million extension with $51 million guaranteed. http://t.co/ea5gLz9pN4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Yowsa. More than I expected. 14m wasn't the number I pegged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Eeeek. Way to drive the market up, jerks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 Maybe Marcel will be inspired to throw down geno multiple times tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proteus Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I have no problem giving Dareus that money as long as there character clauses involved. He is the best DT in football right now, arguably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I would love to re-sign him, but I would rather pay Hughes big money than Dareus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I would love to re-sign him, but I would rather pay Hughes big money than Dareus. Dareus > Hughes. He is an all around beast. But I want both, dammit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 Ironically, Pegula's agency represented him before the ownership transfer made him sell the agency (I assume he sold it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeyBomb Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) The money these athletes (and Goodell) get have gotten WAY out of hand. But I suppose that's a different story for another day. Edited October 25, 2014 by DukeyBomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Dareus > Hughes. He is an all around beast. But I want both, dammit! Yeah, but do you really trust dareus off the field? He strikes me as a guy who will screw around some more after he gets a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Albert Haynesworth. Never guarantee that much money to a defensive tackle. I know Dareus was dealing with off the field issues last year, but I think we've seen what can happen when he's not motivated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 @PFF_Pete: Highest @PFF DT grades, last 5 seasons: 1. Atkins +131.3 2. McCoy +96.8 3. K.Williams +65.4 4. Suh +56.1 5. Dareus +49.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I would love to re-sign him, but I would rather pay Hughes big money than Dareus. Dareus all the way. Yeah, but do you really trust dareus off the field? He strikes me as a guy who will screw around some more after he gets a big deal. That's why you put clauses and incentives in the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Dareus all the way. That's why you put clauses and incentives in the contract. At some point you're still commiting pretty big bucks, and he has an agent fighting to keep ridiculous clauses out too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 At some point you're still commiting pretty big bucks, and he has an agent fighting to keep ridiculous clauses out too. KW is getting up there in age, and Dareus is young, and a top 5 DT. If we don't try to keep him, then we don't have an interest in winning football games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'm not crazy about the fools in Tampa setting the bar for the rest of us with a deal like this. Let them create their own salary cap hell! But I do want Dareus and Hughes back. I wish you could just throw out the outliers because I think Dareus is a much better player at this point. (How he plays with $50-60 million guaranteed is another deal entirely.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 KW is getting up there in age, and Dareus is young, and a top 5 DT. If we don't try to keep him, then we don't have an interest in winning football games. It's almost like you aren't replying to my post at all. I was just pointing out that there will be some leap of faith in signing him. The team can't just force him to agree to any and every clause they might want. To address yours i've been strong in saying we can keep him still. I'd expect KW isn't in the long term plans without an extension that cuts his cup hit..... and you see something where we end up with either Hughes or dareus extended this offseason, the other catching a tag or two and a couple high round picks being added to replace KW and the whoever of the other 3 is more expendable 2-3 years down the line - if I had to guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) KW is getting up there in age, and Dareus is young, and a top 5 DT. If we don't try to keep him, then we don't have an interest in winning football games. Correct. This is the bottom line. At least as far as us armchair GM's are concerned. It's definitely a risk, but Top 5 DT's don't grow on trees. Edited October 25, 2014 by SmokinES3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Correct. This is the bottom line. At least as far as us armchair GM's are concerned. If we want to armchair GM it, and 14m is the number, next to 16m for Mario there are a lot of interesting conversations to be had. We can certainly afford everyone but the ways to get there are not totally black and white and make for good chatter. Would close to 50m on the DL be efficient, even if we can afford it? If we are spending like that are these the 4 to do it with? good message board talk. Edited October 25, 2014 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) If we want to armchair GM it, and 14m is the number, next to 16m for Mario there are a lot of interesting conversations to be had. We can certainly afford everyone but the ways to get there are not totally black and white and make for good chatter. Would close to 50m on the DL be efficient, even if we can afford it? If we are spending like that are these the 4 to do it with? good message board talk. Agreed. Mario's situation is going to get a hard look in the next year or so I'm sure. If the D line continues to have as big of an impact on games as it has, is 50 mill crazy? It's a good question. I'm behind it. Talent wise, Dareus is surest thing on that line. Character concerns not withstanding. Edited October 25, 2014 by SmokinES3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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