GaryPinC Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 ie. Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers. those guys weren't supposed to be any better than EJ coming out of college. but they were able to learn under veteran QB's and take it all in. (Bledsoe, Favre). I love the Bills just as much as the next guy but we really screwed up taking this guy so early and tossing him into games. Hopefully he can use this as fuel to get better. Is sitting and learning behind a veteran QB really the difference? Brady, Rogers, Manning, etc all have the ability to read a defense and make quick, attacking decisions. With accurate throws. The difference between the franchise quarterbacks and the best backups is arm strength and aggressive decision making. Both types have to be accurate enough and read a defense well enough to be consistently effective. You have to worry because Manuel has problems in 3/4 areas. I hope the time off allows him to regroup, excel and be the man for us. But at this point I'm not confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Is sitting and learning behind a veteran QB really the difference? Brady, Rogers, Manning, etc all have the ability to read a defense and make quick, attacking decisions. With accurate throws. The difference between the franchise quarterbacks and the best backups is arm strength and aggressive decision making. Both types have to be accurate enough and read a defense well enough to be consistently effective. You have to worry because Manuel has problems in 3/4 areas. I hope the time off allows him to regroup, excel and be the man for us. But at this point I'm not confident. No reason to be. It's just if you get a couple of years to get down the mental side of the game, it helps when you get in on the physical side of the game. Learning both on the fly exacerbates all your deficiencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I don't feel for him at all. He sucks as a QB, its just business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I don't feel for him at all. He sucks as a QB, its just business. You'd make a fine assassin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 he's young, give him time and he'll get a chance again in Buffalo. worst comes to worse as the #2 QB (<)14 full games is not a good measuring stick. Ask Steve Young or Brett Favre I don't feel for him at all. He sucks as a QB, its just business. and when Orton plays worse than EJ, what then? will you say then?? August 29, 2014 that's 4 weeks to learn the entire offense and win on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 he's young, give him time and he'll get a chance again in Buffalo. worst comes to worse as the #2 QB (<)14 full games is not a good measuring stick. Ask Steve Young or Brett Favre and when Orton plays worse than EJ, what then? will you say then?? August 29, 2014 that's 4 weeks to learn the entire offense and win on the road. But EJ does not ever throw like Favre, Young or any real NFL good QB, he has no zip on the ball and no accuracy. I just do not see him ever being a viable #1 QB....does not have the arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 It's always unfortunate when a young QB is benched but sometimes, like this, its for the best. It's a business and the only thing that matters is getting results and wins. You need to play the people who give you the best chance to do that and after the last two games its clear that its not EJ at this moment. Who's to say that this doesnt send a wake up call to EJ and in a few weeks if Orton is so/so they dont go back to him. This may give him the shock to his system that he may need to realize he needs to stop playing scared. CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I don't feel for him at all. He sucks as a QB, its just business. You were also the one wishing for him to get injured so that Orton could start. The OP's post is one of decency... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 It's the fact that he's such a great kid that pushed him up to an artificially high draft pick. The guy has everything except for the ONE thing he can't ever attain no matter how hard he works: being a natural passer with acceptable NFL level accuracy. When your coaches take away scrambling ability from a guy that is good at it and has used it his whole life, it really spotlights your passing weaknesses/strengths, in the same way switching QB's will expose Hackett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorom Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 EJ was given a good opportunity to show he was improving and deserved the start job. We have to do something different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) It's always unfortunate when a young QB is benched but sometimes, like this, its for the best. It's a business and the only thing that matters is getting results and wins. You need to play the people who give you the best chance to do that and after the last two games its clear that its not EJ at this moment. Who's to say that this doesnt send a wake up call to EJ and in a few weeks if Orton is so/so they dont go back to him. This may give him the shock to his system that he may need to realize he needs to stop playing scared. CBF Right. People develop at different speeds, it is not one size fits all. People forget that Favre was drafted by Atlanta and traded away-- he had many of the same problems back in the day. In the world we live in, everything has to happen instantly. Unfortunately people don't work like the internet, and it's a shame because too many people have to make snap judgments. Edited September 30, 2014 by Casey D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 But EJ does not ever throw like Favre, Young or any real NFL good QB, he has no zip on the ball and no accuracy. I just do not see him ever being a viable #1 QB....does not have the arm. Favre is was an INT machine. both sat on a bench "learning" and look what they achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I don't feel bad for EJ as a football player. I think that if he really wanted to be the best, truly and deeply in his heart, then he would find a way to be the best. If he can't then he either doesn't care enough or he simply isn't talented enough. Whatever the reason is, who cares? He can either learn to perform the job better than his competition or else lose his job. So far he can't really outplay the competition. That is all on him. He was put in a position to excel and he failed. It is primarily his own fault. Therefore there really is no reason to feel sorry for him. There are plenty of good kids who want to play in the NFL. Most don't get the chance that EJ did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 he's young, give him time and he'll get a chance again in Buffalo. worst comes to worse as the #2 QB (<)14 full games is not a good measuring stick. Ask Steve Young or Brett Favre and when Orton plays worse than EJ, what then? will you say then?? August 29, 2014 that's 4 weeks to learn the entire offense and win on the road. And I guarantee you Orton will perform light years better than EJ. Guaranteed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 [This is an automated response] This subject matter is being currently being discussed or has already been discussed in a previous thread. Please consider using the "search" function before starting new topics. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts