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11 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Do I believe violence is an issue in America because of Dem run areas? Yes. As pointed out in a multitude of ways that in both macro and micro situations more guns has little to do with violence and murders, and a liberal is much more likely to use it. 

 

I would be clearer if you just said "black people".

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11 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

I would be clearer if you just said "black people".

thats just your racial biases being projected.

 

the facts point to the majority of Gun violence happening in DEM strongholds.

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Do I believe violence is an issue in America because of Dem run areas? Yes. As pointed out in a multitude of ways that in both macro and micro situations more guns has little to do with violence and murders, and a liberal is much more likely to use it. 


The idea that liberals are the cause of violence is just objectively and provably false. 
 

If it were true, NYC would be the deadliest place in the country. The list of deadliest counties would be just counties from states like New York, California, Vermont, Massachusetts, and Hawaii. 

The fact that the list is made up almost entirely of municipalities from red states simply proves you wrong. 

 

It really just seems like you’ve decided that it’s all the fault of the Dems so you’re cherry picking evidence and ignoring anything to the contrary. 
 

The evidence just actually points to: more guns = more gun deaths. The fact that the deadliest places are the densest places in states with loose gun laws supports that and refutes your claim. 

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14 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

I would be clearer if you just said "black people".

I know you are a bigot but I live in an area that is less than 50% white and teach at a school that is less than 50% white but will likely still have the highest achievement levels in Orange County and top ten in all of Florida public high schools. I don't care about what you look like, I care what you believe. The students who never miss days and do homework are impressive across the board, those who choose  not to show up and don't do work fail. 

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3 hours ago, ChiGoose said:


The idea that liberals are the cause of violence is just objectively and provably false. 
 

If it were true, NYC would be the deadliest place in the country. The list of deadliest counties would be just counties from states like New York, California, Vermont, Massachusetts, and Hawaii. 

The fact that the list is made up almost entirely of municipalities from red states simply proves you wrong. 

 

It really just seems like you’ve decided that it’s all the fault of the Dems so you’re cherry picking evidence and ignoring anything to the contrary. 
 

The evidence just actually points to: more guns = more gun deaths. The fact that the deadliest places are the densest places in states with loose gun laws supports that and refutes your claim. 

Every single local government with high crime is Dem controlled but I am "cherry picking". The biggest cause/correlation for a violent man is lack of father in his life and that is definitely something that is much larger issue in Dem areas then Republican areas. 

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59 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Every single local government with high crime is Dem controlled but I am "cherry picking". The biggest cause/correlation for a violent man is lack of father in his life and that is definitely something that is much larger issue in Dem areas then Republican areas. 


If Dem control is what causes violence, how come NYC doesn’t lead the nation in homicides? Dem city in a Dem county in a Dem state. 

 

If you are correct, we would expect to see thousands of murders in NYC each year.

 

If you’re theory was correct, all of the most deadly places in the US would be Dem cities in Dem states. 
 

If, as reality shows, the deadliest places are in GOP states, then how could your theory possibly be correct?

 

What is it that makes GOP states so much more likely to have higher homicide rates in their more populous areas?

 

I can’t say I put a lot of stock in a theory that is disproven simply by the existence of NYC.

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5 hours ago, ChiGoose said:


The idea that liberals are the cause of violence is just objectively and provably false. 
 

If it were true, NYC would be the deadliest place in the country. The list of deadliest counties would be just counties from states like New York, California, Vermont, Massachusetts, and Hawaii. 

The fact that the list is made up almost entirely of municipalities from red states simply proves you wrong. 

 

It really just seems like you’ve decided that it’s all the fault of the Dems so you’re cherry picking evidence and ignoring anything to the contrary. 
 

The evidence just actually points to: more guns = more gun deaths. The fact that the deadliest places are the densest places in states with loose gun laws supports that and refutes your claim. 


who’s doing the shooting? Specifically who?

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3 minutes ago, aristocrat said:


wanna get more specific? It’s been posted in this thread before. But you know that 


If you want to make a point, make it.

 

If you want to play games, tag someone else. 

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10 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:


If you want to make a point, make it.

 

If you want to play games, tag someone else. 

You’ve been tagged in the posts before look it up. Don’t play ignorant. Who’s doing the shooting? Which demographic in this country shoot people the most often?

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9 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

You’ve been tagged in the posts before look it up. Don’t play ignorant. Who’s doing the shooting? Which demographic in this country shoot people the most often?


People with guns. 
 

Don’t be a coward. Just say what you’re thinking or shut up. 

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12 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:


People with guns. 
 

Don’t be a coward. Just say what you’re thinking or shut up. 

Why are you calling me names? You’ve been tagged in them before and I don’t think your memory is that bad. 

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21 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

Why are you calling me names? You’ve been tagged in them before and I don’t think your memory is that bad. 


Move along, coward. 

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Update - even though I own many guns I still haven't shot anyone. I also own many knives and I've never stabbed anyone. I have sliced my fingers a few times on accident. Knives are dangerous and there should probably be mandatory background checks before purchasing!

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11 hours ago, ChiGoose said:


If Dem control is what causes violence, how come NYC doesn’t lead the nation in homicides? Dem city in a Dem county in a Dem state. 

 

If you are correct, we would expect to see thousands of murders in NYC each year.

 

If you’re theory was correct, all of the most deadly places in the US would be Dem cities in Dem states. 
 

If, as reality shows, the deadliest places are in GOP states, then how could your theory possibly be correct?

 

What is it that makes GOP states so much more likely to have higher homicide rates in their more populous areas?

 

I can’t say I put a lot of stock in a theory that is disproven simply by the existence of NYC.

The guy who accused me of cherry picking data by pointing out the 90% is choosing one city to prove his point. I will give you credit that in your myopic nature you are a true Dem, solve one problem while creating a bunch more for others. Of course you don't care about the single mother with the abusive boyfriend so your solution works for what your myopic aim. 

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19 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

The guy who accused me of cherry picking data by pointing out the 90% is choosing one city to prove his point. I will give you credit that in your myopic nature you are a true Dem, solve one problem while creating a bunch more for others. Of course you don't care about the single mother with the abusive boyfriend so your solution works for what your myopic aim. 


“Violence is caused by Dems, that’s why the deadliest counties in America are not in states controlled by Dems”

 

Buddy, it’s just an absolutely terrible argument. 
 

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