OldTimer1960 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 "There are plenty of franchises who have never had 1 QB as good as either of those guys." Not bad. How about the other 25 teams? But that wouldn't support the argument that it is just that "the dumb Bills" don't realize how important a great QB is. It is SO obvious that they should "do whatever it takes" to just go get one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 But that wouldn't support the argument that it is just that "the dumb Bills" don't realize how important a great QB is. It is SO obvious that they should "do whatever it takes" to just go get one! I got wacked on that one. See the poop or get off the pot thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) Sure their was injuries to the Chiefs and not a well managed second half by them, but lets not downplay how well Luck played with the game on the line. Edited January 5, 2014 by billsfan_34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I'm still mad at the Bills for not drafting Kaepernick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Compare Luck's rookie stat line with EJ's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Compare Luck's rookie stat line with EJ's YUP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 Compare Luck's rookie stat line with EJ's can u add the stats for us to see? I'm still mad at the Bills for not drafting Kaepernick. I remember screaming his name when we were at the podium!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 We need to give Manuel another year to develop and see what he brings. We also need to draft a QB -- early -- and see what he brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 luck is playing with zero pro bowlers on offense. kelly had....thomas, reed, lofton, wilford, richter, hull, ballard None of whom were pro bowlers if the did not play with Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 can u add the stats for us to see? When I get back to my desktop I will do so; I'm on my iPhone at the moment. If anyone else can back me up that'd be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) The Bills also didn't sniff the playoffs in his 2nd yr and when they did in yr 3 the defense carried them. I mean we all know its a different game now and its not fair to compare stats but if Kelly is the over/under, love ya Jim but I'm taking the over on Luck's career. I think ur completely overreacting to something that just happened vs something that most of us watched happen in late 80's Go on YouTube and watch some highlights of Kelly in those early years throwing to guys like Chris Burkett, Riddick, Harmon, some guy named Flip Johnson who I don't even remember, etc. Besides Reed who was just emerging that team really didn't have any other receivers to speak of Edited January 5, 2014 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 We need to give Manuel another year to develop and see what he brings. We also need to draft a QB -- early -- and see what he brings. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) When I get back to my desktop I will do so; I'm on my iPhone at the moment. If anyone else can back me up that'd be great. Here's a quick cut and paste. To the naked eye, you can easily see Luck was a gunslinger and EJ was conservative. Edited January 5, 2014 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 Here's a quick cut and paste. To the naked eye, you can easily see Luck was a gunslinger and EJ was conservative. wow thats pretty telling thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 wow thats pretty telling thanks Pretty telling in what way? That the consensus best QB in at least the last decade (whom the Bills did not have a shot at) looks to be better than EJ Manuel so far? Who'd have thunk? Besides aberrations Kaepernick and Wilson, what great QB prospect have the Bills passed on? I'll grant that Nick Foles looked good this year, to, but I saw Nobody claiming that Wilson, Kaepernick and Foles were can't miss prospects- if there were, they'd have been picked early in round 1 by any number of QB-needy teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Pretty telling in what way? That the consensus best QB in at least the last decade (whom the Bills did not have a shot at) looks to be better than EJ Manuel so far? Who'd have thunk? Besides aberrations Kaepernick and Wilson, what great QB prospect have the Bills passed on? I'll grant that Nick Foles looked good this year, to, but I saw Nobody claiming that Wilson, Kaepernick and Foles were can't miss prospects- if there were, they'd have been picked early in round 1 by any number of QB-needy teams. I was screamin kap when he was there for us. And i could go thru the whole list but we have passed up many good QBs and drafted the wrong ones. As for telling, look at the numbers luck put up his rookie season compared to ej's, granted he only played 9 games I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Pretty telling in what way? That the consensus best QB in at least the last decade (whom the Bills did not have a shot at) looks to be better than EJ Manuel so far? Who'd have thunk? Besides aberrations Kaepernick and Wilson, what great QB prospect have the Bills passed on? I'll grant that Nick Foles looked good this year, to, but I saw Nobody claiming that Wilson, Kaepernick and Foles were can't miss prospects- if there were, they'd have been picked early in round 1 by any number of QB-needy teams. Off the top of my head, the biggest QB errors the Bills have made in the last decade are passing on Kaepernick and Wilson. In 2006 they drafted Donte Whitner instead of Jay Cutler but I'm not sure Cutler is the kind of player Bills fans would have been satisfied with. In 2011 I suppose they could have packaged multiple draft picks to move up for Cam Newton. We don't know if Carolina would have traded though. Ditto in 2004 for Roethlisberger. The opportunity to draft one of these guys is rare. When one of them is within reach, you have to recognize the opportunity and make it happen. You need a bit of luck to get one in your sights and you need a bit of luck that the player will become the player you hope he'll become. During this same time period plenty of first round QBs busted so there's that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Like I said in my first glance analysis, Luck was chucking the ball everywhere and EJ wasn't. Luck beat him out in the good stats but also blew EJ out of the water in bad stats. Also keep in mind that the Colts don't have a running back tandem anywhere near FJ and CJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp2Warlick Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Joe Schad @schadjoe7m Blake Bortles UCF QB will enter NFL Draft. (First reported Orlando Sentinel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Like I said in my first glance analysis, Luck was chucking the ball everywhere and EJ wasn't. Luck beat him out in the good stats but also blew EJ out of the water in bad stats. Also keep in mind that the Colts don't have a running back tandem anywhere near FJ and CJ. True about the running backs; they do have targets like Reggie Wayne (a future HOFer IMO), Hilton, Fleener, and Allen. Buffalo might have one guy (Stevie) that stacks up against that corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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