FluffHead Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 He didn't pass the eye test in college and still doesn't. The only eye test he passed was that of Bills' great talent evaluators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Am I the only one who still believes in him? I believe that next year he will take a huge step forward and we will be in playoff contention. He has the body, leadership, mind, legs and arm to be a great QB. Somewhere along the line at FSU, someone seriously messed up his throwing mechanics. It affects his accuracy, and everyone can see it. But WHEN, not IF, he figures it out, this Bills team is going to be good. Its hard to see now but bright things are ahead, put trust into Marrone, Manuel and Whaley. Yes he definitely has all you said but the 3 most important things you need to be a above average NFL caliber QB is accuracy, consistency & decision making which is where EJ has lacked in his college & now his NFL career . I hope he does make that jump next year but i still think we need to draft another QB this year b/c the class is heads & tails above last years class & if for no other reason than to put a spark under EJ's A** to compete at the highest level then we need to draft another QB !! Plus it would be smart as a security blanket JUST INCASE EJ isn't all they thought he would be & turns out to be another Jamarcus Russel & never comes around . Smart teams has 2 good QB's look at what the Bears have with their #2 McCown thats what we need !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelee Phoenix Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 A veteran is not coming in, at least not one you'd ever want to play. Hence why I'd like to draft another QB. I don't think EJ is a bust yet, but I also don't think this team should rest on their laurels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 While I agree with OP's sentiment, he should be reminded that E.J. Manuel did not "miss the entire pre-season". The way I look at it, let the kid play these last three weeks. He had a rough day on Sunday, as did the entire team. Don't forget, he played a great game against a good Jets defense, and made positive plays that helped to beat quality opponents in Baltimore and Carolina. He was in the midst of a good game against Cleavland before missing 4 games..he has had series of stops and starts. I agree, he has some improvement to make, but I also don't think he is as hopelessly horrible as this board, in general, wants to paint him. Most of us knew what we were in for this season with a first round QB pick...we were excited for it...bring it on we said....so here it is, let it happen, see where it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelee Phoenix Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 The rest of this season is for EJ, I said that after the Chiefs debacle Unfortunately, he's been quite bad since then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 He didn't pass the eye test in college and still doesn't. The only eye test he passed was that of Bills' great talent evaluators The same great talent evaluators who drafted WRs most people are still high on, and our 2nd round rookie of the year LB candidate. Anyway, about this eye test. So, he needs glasses? Or you're making stuff up? Other causes for concern: EJ also didn't pass the fluffernutter test, and he graded out poorly in the nose competition. Don't even look at his slinky results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Should have taken Nassib in the 4th round I'm tellin ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I don't think EJ's a bust. He has played very well at times and not so great in others. You know, like a rookie. Give him more time. However I would like to see us sign a FA backup. If we can't do that, draft a QB in round 3 or so and re sign Thaddues. Maybe Jordon Lynch out of NIU. I like EJ, but I don't want to put all of our eggs in his basket. But I do want to put most of them there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boludo Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 He didn't pass the eye test in college and still doesn't. The only eye test he passed was that of Bills' great talent evaluators this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I don't think the rookie QB is a bust. However, I do think the rookie OC IS a bust, and so is this HC should the Bills stay with the same type of game plan, play calling the next few weeks and then retain him in the off season. Will they then hire a QB coach to help him out. You know, kinda like the Bills did with DC George Edwards his second year with Buffalo. I wanted Doug Marrone to be what Gailey, Jauron weren't, a good head coach. I just don't see it tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boludo Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 he has no athleticism and he cant throw he can't make anyone miss in the open field he has no moves he's not a runner and not a pocket passer idk what good people think they see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Generally QBs who can't throw don't just all of a sudden become good throwers Bingo. I am not sold on EJ Manuel. But these are early days. We need to burn another couple 8-9 loss seasons before we can tell. Boy , you really need a QB in this league now. A good running game is very helpful, but you can't win with a good run game and a good defense. You need to put points up. Lots of points. That is today's NFL. If we are top 5 drafting, I would take another QB. Or go get Cutler. Do something. I can't watch EJ Manuel spend the next 2 seasons growing up. Too much pain. Edited December 10, 2013 by 8and8Forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL95MelGrayDomination Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 EJ has 3 more games & quite possibly 8 games into 2014 before he gets benched. He's 9 games in & is 3-6. If he starts the first 8 games of '14 & is a 2 wins or less QB I can't say he deserves more time. Having said that he may come into camp & start to dominate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL95MelGrayDomination Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 It's time to move on, Bills fans. If we are serious about 2014 we need to embrace change. Will Marrone resign so we can start the real rebuild? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Did you guys actually watch that Tampa Bay game the Bills were supposed to easily win.They were manhandled by the Bucs D line. Doug Marrone, ex NFL O lineman, ex NFL O line coach, ex NFL OC, and now should be ex NFL HC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Doug Marrone, ex NFL O lineman, ex NFL O line coach, ex NFL OC, and now should be ex NFL HC! I agree. Coach Marrone appears to be in over his head. 12 games in with the new coach the team should be starting to hit it's stride. Instead it's getting worse. Now it appears he is losing the locker room as well. Players are airing dirty laundry and throwing each other under the bus. Cut our losses and end the small college .500 coach experiment and get a real coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL95MelGrayDomination Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 It never helps when your coach is verbally challenged man who leads with "I think", "at the end of the day", "You know", "Ok?", "I'm upset" & my favorite "I've been thru this before". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 It never helps when your coach is verbally challenged man who leads with "I think", "at the end of the day", "You know", "Ok?", "I'm upset" & my favorite "I've been thru this before". I remember in his first press conference when they announced him as the new coach of the Buffalo Bills thinking, this guy can ramble on and talk for hours and say nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Generally QBs who can't throw don't just all of a sudden become good throwers Except he can throw. I've seen him throw beautiful balls with accuracy when he's standing back in the pocket with confidence. A lot of the problems with his footwork come when he feels rushed whether imagined or real. When this happens he rushes through his throwing motion and his footwork goes to hell. At some point he'll start to get it and things will slow down for him. It will be at that point the Bills will know what they've got. Unfortunately for impatient fans the only way to get to that point is the play. The Bills would be idiotic to move on from him before they get to that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL95MelGrayDomination Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I remember in his first press conference when they announced him as the new coach of the Buffalo Bills thinking, this guy can ramble on and talk for hours and say nothing. Don't get me wrong he's a nice genuine guy. Can his verbal prose be indicative of his intellectual capability? If so, we are doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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