mitchmurraydowntown Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) Here's another scenario: 2.) Trade Byrd to San Fran - Our compensation is their #31 / #34 pick & some type of extra 6th. Byrd is leaving after this season so keeping him gets us nowhere quicker. Byrd's already unhappy as well. 3.) Trade our 8th pick with Vikings - Our compensation is #23 & #25 pick. So we'd have Picks #23, #25, #31, #34, #41, #71, #105 or 7 picks in the first 3 1/3 rounds of a deep draft. These are all doable deals & have huge merit. Let's come up with drafting scenario's as well, I'll set the table for copy / paste: #23 Pick - #25 Pick - #31 Pick - #34 Pick - #41 Pick - #71 Pick - #105 Pick - Go Billls!! Edited April 18, 2013 by mitchmurraydowntown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Again I don't see the Niners trading high draft picks for Byrd, signing him to a mega-contract, etc. when they just let Dashon Goldson walk. There are some good safeties in this draft and IMO the Niners could spend fewer picks in a trade up to get one of them… or see if one falls to them. And it would save them a ton of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 Again I don't see the Niners trading high draft picks for Byrd, signing him to a mega-contract, etc. when they just let Dashon Goldson walk. There are some good safeties in this draft and IMO the Niners could spend fewer picks in a trade up to get one of them… or see if one falls to them. And it would save them a ton of money. Drafting them doesn't make them a sure bet, like Byrd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Byrd not signing his tender or whatever you call it does not mean he is unhappy. I would hope he stays on our team, I hate sending good players off to draft what, maybe busts. You try to keep your (proven) drafted talent. I hope they are working on doing so, now or at least before the beginning of the season. I am alright with trading back in the draft, UNLESS they miss their guy doing it. I really don't think if you throw more **** at the wall, flowers will necessarily grow at the base of the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 Byrd not signing his tender or whatever you call it does not mean he is unhappy. I would hope he stays on our team, I hate sending good players off to draft what, maybe busts. You try to keep your (proven) drafted talent. I hope they are working on doing so, now or at least before the beginning of the season. I am alright with trading back in the draft, UNLESS they miss their guy doing it. I really don't think if you throw more **** at the wall, flowers will necessarily grow at the base of the wall. There's plenty of **** all over the room already, when need a clean-up crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Drafting them doesn't make them a sure bet, like Byrd. Yes but Goldson was a sure thing too and after franchising him for one season, they decided not to sign him long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 Yes but Goldson was a sure thing too and after franchising him for one season, they decided not to sign him long term. Is Byrd better than Goldson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Is Byrd better than Goldson? Good question. Goldson was All-Pro this past season and made the Pro Bowl in 2011 and 2012. He just signed a 5-year, $41.25 million contract with $22 million guaranteed. Certainly the two are pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 It would change the course of the team if I was even close, we're so in need of more talent & depth. This is draft to get us back in order & right now we're sitting with very few picks. You're never back in order until you have a QB. Wishing Nassib was there at #31 is a risky proposition if he's the QB you like. Most teams aren't totally stacked and if they are it doesn't last long and it blows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 You're never back in order until you have a QB. Wishing Nassib was there at #31 is a risky proposition if he's the QB you like. Most teams aren't totally stacked and if they are it doesn't last long and it blows up. Is Nassib there at #23 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 We're not going anywhere next year the way we sit, we need a huge draft from a deep draft. Knowing that the talent doesn't fall off much from the 15th pick to the 115th pick, we need to go deep. So here's the plan: 1.) Trade our #8 pick to Falcons - Our compensation is #30, #60, and #92 plus their next years 1st round pick (Value on the chart is a Bills ahead a bit) 2.) Trade Byrd to San Fran - Our compensation is their #31 / #34 pick & some type of extra 6th. Byrd is leaving after this season so keeping him gets us nowhere quicker. Byrd's already unhappy as well. When you combine all our picks you get us picking at #30, #31, #34, #41, #60, #71, #92, #105 or 8 picks in the first 3 1/3 rounds of a deep draft. These are all doable deals & have huge merit. Let's come up with drafting scenario's as well, I'll set the table for copy / paste: #30 Pick - #31 Pick - #34 Pick - #41 Pick - #60 Pick - #71 Pick - #92 Pick - #105 Pick - Go Billls!! well, if this actually happened, it would be the play of the 2013 draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair GM Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 It would change the course of the team if I was even close, we're so in need of more talent & depth. This is draft to get us back in order & right now we're sitting with very few picks. Wouldn't you say we need the talent before the depth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 Wouldn't you say we need the talent before the depth? This draft is quite deep in talent & the drop-off isn't as drastic as normal, best bet is to add 4-5 additional picks early in the draft & pick-up guys we had graded high that fell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 The whole idea of trading Byrd is nonsense. I doubt Pettine would be in favor of getting rid of one of his best young players on defense. A ballhawking playmaker at that... The Bills will sit down after the draft and workout a long term deal with Byrd's agent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 If one of the 3 stuff OTs is left on the board when the Bills draft at 8, they will have a chance to trade back and get more picks. IMO no one after them in the first round will be drafting a QB. Use their 2nd and the extra pick from moving back to move into the end of the first and get the top QB on their board. Risky but the conservative approach has gotten them nothing in the QB derby since Jimbo retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 You traded the 8th overall and Byrd for a net of 3 draft picks that leave us at 30 & 31 in the first round? I think they can do better than that. St. Louis needs a safety and has two first round picks. Byrd to the Rams for a 1st. Bengals have 2 second picks, see if they would like to move up- someone will in the first round to jump over the Jets- anyway- 1st (8th) to the Bengals for their 1st (21st) and their 2nd (37th). That's even on the trade value chart. That gives them: 1-16 1-21 2-37 2-41 3-71 plus their 4th, 5th and 6th round picks. Looking at all the mock drafts. This is what I would do. 1-16 Tavon Austin- WR 1-21 Fluker/Warmack/Cooper- OL- if any of the 3 are left or Eifert TE if he is still there. 2-37 Ryan Nassib- QB 2-41 Reid/Elam- S 3-71 Terrance Williams- WR 4- LB/CB 5-LB/CB 6-Whatever is left. Knowing the Bills, they will not do anything worthwhile, blow the 8th overall on Nassib,...and not sign Byrd and he walks after this year for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 2013 Bills draft picks: 8. Buffalo Bills: Ryan Nassib - QB - Syracuse: Jets forced their hand. 41. BB - Cordarrelle Patterson - WR - Tennessee: For our quick uptempo offense. 71. Da'Rick Rogers - WR - Tennessee Tech: We're making the offense better, now. 105. Alex Okafor - DE - Texas: Yeah, he falls that far down & we can't resist. 143. Dion Sims - TE - Michigan State: 6'5" & 262 LBS, just throw him the ball then lookout. 177. Nico Johnson - ILB - Alabama: Dansby has to mentor somebody. Top Ten Draft picks: 1. Kansas City Chiefs: Eric Fisher - OT - Central Michigan: Has the Edge on Luke. 2. Jacksonville Jaguars: Dion Jordan - OLB - Oregon: Biggest need looks to be filled. 3. Oakland Raiders: Luke Joeckel -OT - Texas A&M - Prayed for Eric but will take LJ. 4. Philadelphia Eagles: Lane Johnson - OT - Oklahoma: Securing the trenches. 5. Detroit Lions: Dee Milliner - CB - Alabama: Jets won't play ball on the Lions demand, so they cook them. 6. Cleveland Browns: Star Lotulelei - DT - Utah: Can be put anywhere on the line. 7. Arizona Cardinals: Ziggy Ansah DE - BYU: BPA. 8. Buffalo Bills: Ryan Nassib - QB - Syracuse: Jets forced their hand. 9. New York Jets: Barkevious Mingo - OLB - LSU: Part of the rebuild that needs some time. 10. Tennessee Titans: Sharrif Floyd - DT - Florida: BPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Nassib will be there. The rest will be gone by the time we pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 is that a wish list cuz patterson wont be there in 2nd and sims wont be there in the 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 is that a wish list cuz patterson wont be there in 2nd and sims wont be there in the 5th I think many early picks in the second round focus on the defense / O-line, not on WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts