JimKelly4President Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 As the HC of buffalo Jauron led the bills to 3 straight 7-9 seaons and then was fired midway through a 3-6 season. this leaves him at a 42% win percentage (24-33) . crappy right? well no. gailey as HC is currently 15-33, thats a 32% win percentage. Absolute poop. Both coaches had Terrible QBs but if numbers tell us true Chan and Fitz are 10% worse than Jauron and J.P. . On the flip side. gailey coached the Birmingham FIre to two consectuive playoff runs in the World League of American Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I didnt think it was possible for anyone to be worse then Jauron but Chan proved me wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkKelso'sHelmet Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) As bad as both of them are, Dick & Trentative were by far worse. The games during the Jauron era were unwatchable. Neither the offense or the defense ever featured anything exciting or inspiring. Even the wins during that regime were ugly. That Buffalo - Cleveland 6-3 loss was one of the worst games I have ever watched in the history of watching sporting events. "IT'S HARD TO WIN IN THIS LEAGUE..." -- over and over, week after week. That was worse. Gailey is a bumbling idiot but Jauron was the corpse. And Fitz is a solid NFL backup. Edwards is an NFL third stringer... Edited December 28, 2012 by MarkKelso'sHelmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Not to defend Gailey but his first year he chose to see what they had instead of signing free agents...He took over knowing he had a mess and basically washed his first year. Has the Win/loss stat improves know but I do believe we have a far more attractive roster for a more suitable head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUffalo Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I personally think Mike Mularkey is the only decent head coach we've had in this era of playoffless...ness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 As bad as both of them are, Dick & Trentative were by far worse. The games during the Jauron era were unwatchable. Neither the offense or the defense ever featured anything exciting or inspiring. Even the wins during that regime were ugly. That Buffalo - Cleveland 6-3 loss was one of the worst games I have ever watched in the history of watching sporting events. "IT'S HARD TO WIN IN THIS LEAGUE..." -- over and over, week after week. That was worse. Gailey is a bumbling idiot but Jauron was the corpse. And Fitz is a solid NFL backup. Edwards is an NFL third stringer... Excitement isn't typically the benchmark criteria for evaluating success. Jauron may have been one of the walking dead.....but he got to eat more brains than Gailey has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I am sorry, but this is ridiculous. the jauron squads were horrendous on offense. For example, we used to have debates on here wondering whether there were WR's even going out for passes because the QB's wouldn't throw to the WRs. You can rip fitz all you want, but outside of one Bledsoe season, he's been the most exciting QB we have had since flutie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Not to defend Gailey but his first year he chose to see what they had instead of signing free agents...He took over knowing he had a mess and basically washed his first year. Has the Win/loss stat improves know but I do believe we have a far more attractive roster for a more suitable head coach. I'll be the first to say it on this thread. A lot if not most of the good starters (there aren't a lot) are DJ holdovers. Are depth in 2012 is very poor, even with a year of less injuries. This team is not as close as some will claim. The depth and starters on defense are brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I personally think Mike Mularkey is the only decent head coach we've had in this era of playoffless...ness. Perry is going to run a team some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Simple enough to do the research. Went back to 1986. Gailey/Fitzpatrick 15-29 Gailey/Edwards 0-2 Gailey/Brohm 0-1 Fewell/Fitzpatrick 3-3 Fewell/Brohm 0-1 Jauron/Fitzpatrick 1-1 Jauron/Edwards 14-16 Jauron/Losman 9-16 Mularkey/Holcomb 4-4 Mularkey/Losman 1-7 Mularkey/Bledsoe 9-7 Williams/Bledsoe 14-18 Williams/Van Pelt 2-6 Williams/Johnson 1-7 Phillips/Johnson 8-10 Phillips/Flutie 21-9 Levy/Collins 7-10 Levy/Van Pelt 1-2 Levy/Kelly 99-52 Levy/Reich 4-4 Bullough/Kelly 2-7 Record as starter: Fitzpatrick 19-33 Edwards 14-18 Brohm 0-2 Losman 10-23 Holcomb 4-4 Bledsoe 23-25 Van Pelt 3-8 Johnson 9-17 Flutie 21-9 Collins 7-10 Reich 4-4 Kelly 101-59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I am sorry, but this is ridiculous. the jauron squads were horrendous on offense. For example, we used to have debates on here wondering whether there were WR's even going out for passes because the QB's wouldn't throw to the WRs. You can rip fitz all you want, but outside of one Bledsoe season, he's been the most exciting QB we have had since flutie. Excitement isn't typically the benchmark criteria for evaluating success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) Perry is going to run a team some day. You mean after he gets fired from Giants next week? It amazes me how many ppl think he would be a good head coach just bc he got the team to play hard after Jauron was fired. Most teams usually show a spark when a head coach is fired during the season Edited December 28, 2012 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Note to self: drop off note in Simon's Suggestion Box. MINIMUM AGE TO START THREADS:15 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Simple enough to do the research. Went back to 1986. Gailey/Fitzpatrick 15-29 Gailey/Edwards 0-2 Gailey/Brohm 0-1 Fewell/Fitzpatrick 3-3 Fewell/Brohm 0-1 Jauron/Fitzpatrick 1-1 Jauron/Edwards 14-16 Jauron/Losman 9-16 Mularkey/Holcomb 4-4 Mularkey/Losman 1-7 Mularkey/Bledsoe 9-7 Williams/Bledsoe 14-18 Williams/Van Pelt 2-6 Williams/Johnson 1-7 Phillips/Johnson 8-10 Phillips/Flutie 21-9 Levy/Collins 7-10 Levy/Van Pelt 1-2 Levy/Kelly 99-52 Levy/Reich 4-4 Bullough/Kelly 2-7 Record as starter: Fitzpatrick 19-33 Edwards 14-18 Brohm 0-2 Losman 10-23 Holcomb 4-4 Bledsoe 23-25 Van Pelt 3-8 Johnson 9-17 Flutie 21-9 Collins 7-10 Reich 4-4 Kelly 101-59 Good stuff. I had no idea fluties record as starter was that good. Similar winning % as Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Not to defend Gailey but his first year he chose to see what they had instead of signing free agents...He took over knowing he had a mess and basically washed his first year. Has the Win/loss stat improves know but I do believe we have a far more attractive roster for a more suitable head coach. Most good new coaches would try to win immediately as opposed to spending a year assessing the talent that was left to him. These assessments should be made during the first mini camp and preseason, not to mention looking at film from the previous season. Your point is indicative of the problem of Nix and Gailey, they are slow to recognize the problems and even slower toward making the fixes and slow to evaluate talent. They don't have a win now attitude. Which is why we are just beginning to look for a QB now as opposed to 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Good stuff. I had no idea fluties record as starter was that good. Similar winning % as Kelly Neither did our FO/Coaching staff, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 If we would have kept Perry Fewell we would have had a new QB 3 years ago & we still could have brought Chan in as OC. bad move Nix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Excitement isn't typically the benchmark criteria for evaluating success. It should be. Those jauron squads, even in victory, were boring to watch and offered no hope for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBill Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I didnt think it was possible for anyone to be worse then Jauron but Chan proved me wrong I agree with you 100%. Didn't think it was possible, but they passed that plateau some time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Your point is indicative of the problem of Nix and Gailey, they are slow to recognize the problems and even slower toward making the fixes and slow to evaluate talent. They don't have a win now attitude. Which is why we are just beginning to look for a QB now as opposed to 2 years ago. I think you've put your finger on the key thing. Coming out of a full camp they go for Trent over Fitz, give him a game or two, then throw Trent overboard. Then jump on the Fitz bandwagon, see him "do it" a few times and then lock into him for 3 years with no serious effort to develop any future capacity behind Fitz. It now is crystal clear that Fitz is not the answer, but the cupboard's bare and we bear the stench of desperation coming into the draft season. Just too slow evaluating talent and not preparing for the future at the most critical position on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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