ALF Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Redskins traded from 6th to 2nd to pick RG3, in return for 3 #1's and a 2nd. He looks worth it , but is there another qb that caliber this year? JaMarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, and other major busts.In 2004, three players Nix drafted were selected to the 2005 Pro Bowl. In 2005, six players Nix drafted were selected to the 2006 Pro Bowl. In 2006, eleven players Nix drafted were selected to the 2007 Pro Bowl. In 2007, eight players Nix drafted were selected to the 2008 Pro Bowl. The Chargers won four out of the last five AFC West titles with Nix as Assistant GM and Director of Player Personnel, in charge of college scouting and instrumental to the decision making process of their NFL drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 and if it takes a trade, then we have to do it, we can't settle for a guy. Murray, Bray or Jones are the three for me and if it takes a trade, then we have to do it, we can't settle for a guy. Murray, Bray or Jones are the three for me before jumping on Murray, go watch some film of when he plays the good teams in the SEC. He was absolutely horrible against Florida this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I am ALL for drafting a QB. BUT do you realize that Andrew Luck is on pace to break the ALL-TIME NFL Record for wins for a rookie QB??? That RECORD is 7 WINS!!! 7 SEVEN This scares the hell out of me. It puts on a ANOTHER 3 year re-building plan Not sure I can swallow that pill. Plus be careful what you wish for. We draft a starting QB, we go 5-11. Then this board lights up and boils over that we picked the wrong guy. Then fire the coach. Fire the GM. Draft another guy. Be careful what you wish for!! Let's just assume Fitz will start next year. Of course the board will have the same reaction either way so it doesn't matter. Do folks realize at this point Fitz will be the only true qb on the roster after the season? They pretty much have to fill the spots so maybe they will sign one fa and draft one or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 How many mulligans does this guy get before people realize he's fumbling in the dark for the light switch? Taking 4 off-seasons to realize you don't have a solid QB on the roster is the most egregious example of a bad GM. This rebuild, at best, is stuck in the mud because Nix can't get things right the first time. Well said. Let's just assume Fitz will start next year. Of course the board will have the same reaction either way so it doesn't matter. Do folks realize at this point Fitz will be the only true qb on the roster after the season? They pretty much have to fill the spots so maybe they will sign one fa and draft one or two. Fitz will not be on the roster next year. He will be cut in the offseason to save money. That's why TJack is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 That's Buddy's "Fountain of Youth." IF he does not leave till he drafts a franchise QB, and IF it takes another 20+ years to find, AND sign one, he's got instant job security and longevity. We may even have a new stadium by then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I am ALL for drafting a QB. BUT do you realize that Andrew Luck is on pace to break the ALL-TIME NFL Record for wins for a rookie QB??? That RECORD is 7 WINS!!! 7 SEVEN This scares the hell out of me. It puts on a ANOTHER 3 year re-building plan Not sure I can swallow that pill. Plus be careful what you wish for. We draft a starting QB, we go 5-11. Then this board lights up and boils over that we picked the wrong guy. Then fire the coach. Fire the GM. Draft another guy. Be careful what you wish for!! Big Ben won 13 games as a rook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I stopped reading after the first page. It's unreal that anyone could make an excuse for Buddy Nix after his 3rd year. Especially after backing Gailey and giving Fitz 60 million. From day 1 he's been a joke. 13-27. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 (edited) How many mulligans does this guy get before people realize he's fumbling in the dark for the light switch? Taking 4 off-seasons to realize you don't have a solid QB on the roster is the most egregious example of a bad GM. This rebuild, at best, is stuck in the mud because Nix can't get things right the first time. Year one - They wanted Tebow, but it didn't work out. Gailey is then looking at the QB's on the roster trying to figure out what he has. Edwards sucks, replaced by Fitz, and Fitz shows little flashes here or there. Year two - Remember there were rumors that the FO wanted Ponder in the draft prior to this year, but the Vikings took him a lot higher than anticipated in the 1st. Andre Reed had let the cat out of the bag in that respect. No Ponder so Fitz gets his chance. He is extremely effective the first 7 weeks, gets a new contract, and then reverts to form. Year three - Fitz gets one more year to show he can get it done and is worth the money. Obviously he is not. Nix is now talking of drafting a QB. All of the armchair GM's saying this is the FO's fault right now were the same ones riding the same highs as everyone else early last season before the wheels came off. Not singling you out BillsVet, nor saying you were on the Fitz bandwagon, just a general statement. The defense? I truly believe it is more coaching than it is our players, not to mention our young CB's. That is the FO's fault with the defensive coaches. I thought the "stache" hiring would go a lot different than it has. He has proven himslef to be more inept than any DC I can remember. The QB situation? They wanted to give Fitz one more shot, but realize now that he is surely not the guy. Could we have drafted an Osweiler or Wilson this past draft? Yes, but they had just invested in Fitz and thought he was still capable of matching last year's initial output on the field. I'd say honest mistake more than being clueless. That leaves them in the situation they are now. Tough year to draft a QB once you get past Barkley and Smith imo. Tyler Wilson and Landry Jones seemingly have all the talent in the world, but there are many questions surrounding them. Bray and Murray? You never know what you are going to get from those guys. Sort of like Jekyl and Hyde QB's. Glennon and Manuel have talent also, but will they pan out? Klein is another Tebow. Tajh Boyd from Clemson has looked really improved on the field this year. I like A.J. McCarron and think he would be the guy I take if he were available @ our pick in the 1st, but he may very well just stay in school. The best QB prospect in all of college football may be a Freshman @ Texas A&M named Johnny Manziel and he can't turn pro yet. It's a tough task ahead for our GM to find "The Guy" for the future around here, especially in this draft class. I know we need to do something, but don't take a guy in the 1st just because you want to replace Fitz that bad. We have holes all over the place. Really, I know I'm an ND homer, but Te'o would look outstanding in a Bills uni and I hope that becomes a reality with our 1st this coming year. Then another LB like Chase Thomas from Stanford in the 2nd to play OLB. That would leave the 3rd round to take an EJ Manuel, Landry Jones, Mike Glennon, Tyler Bray, or Ryan Nassib. People will say there is no way Jones or Bray(if Bray declares) will fall this far and you may be right, but who are the teams really in need of a QB? Jacksonville, Kansas City, possibly Oakland, possibly St. Louis, possibly Arizona, and us. All of the other teams have recent high draft picks they are rolling with @ QB. The ones listed as "possibly" may very well stick with who they already have which narrows the numbers down even more. The main thing we need is an "in your face" type of DC who gets these guys motivated and actually has the imagination/game planning for today's NFL. Couple that with some solid picks for the defense and we are working with something. Edited November 10, 2012 by H2o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Well said. Fitz will not be on the roster next year. He will be cut in the offseason to save money. That's why TJack is here. It's going to be Fitz's job until someone plays better, just like it will be Fredex's job until someone takes it away. TJack is here finishing up the last year of his contract, it's gotta be 50/50 that we can even sign him. You'd have thought they would have made a move by now on the contract, but maybe tjack wants to weigh his options. I assume Chan would want at least one vet backup going into training camp so I'm assuming obd will put some effort into signing him if they think he can perform in Chan's offense. For better or worse, Chan has hooked his wagon to Fitz. If Fitz starts losing games by not being able to score they will make a change. Our defense has some work to do before that happens. It seems to me if the play calling stays heavy run it will keep Fitz from having to win games. That mindset will also help develop a young qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzShowUsYourTitz Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 (edited) Big Ben won 13 games as a rook My bad.....but the REALISTIC chances of winning with a rookie are slight. It's definitely a re-build at that. Unless you get LUCK - y. Edited November 10, 2012 by Cville Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Probably just another Cordy Glenn move where Buddy's outsmarting everyone in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Duck Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 what good is another QB without a Defense that can stop your opponent? I'm all for drafting a promising young QB prospect, but myself personally, I like the way Fitz has thrown the ball as of late... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 what good is another QB without a Defense that can stop your opponent? I'm all for drafting a promising young QB prospect, but myself personally, I like the way Fitz has thrown the ball as of late... Patriots had the second worst defense last year. The Giants defense was ranked #27 last year. GB went 15-1 with the last ranked defense in the league. Sooooo......I'm sorry what was your point again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Fitz will not be on the roster next year. He will be cut in the offseason to save money. That's why TJack is here. I wonder if they will offer Fitz a modified (lower pay) contract to stick around. No other team will offer him a better deal than what he could make staying with the Bills for less money as a backup. I hope that is what happens. I like the guy, even if he can't throw a football with much speed or accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 (edited) Nix attempted to shore up the defense first and beef up the O line second. He is now in a much better position to give up position/picks by trade then wheeling and dealing draft for players. I'm holding out hope for Nix and some continuity. i dont like this here 3 year rule. PS nice post H2o I wonder if they will offer Fitz a modified (lower pay) contract to stick around. No other team will offer him a better deal than what he could make staying with the Bills for less money as a backup. I hope that is what happens. I like the guy, even if he can't throw a football with much speed or accuracy. Actually i agree. He would be a great # 2. and everyone would like him again i bet.pss Independant, very nice addition to thread sir Edited November 10, 2012 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I'm all for drafting a promising young QB prospect, but myself personally, I like the way Fitz has thrown the ball as of late... Thanks, Mrs. Fitz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maguire's Beer Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 (edited) I've seen his name mentioned a couple times, but Tajh Boyd is a junior, and I doubt he'll declare this year. If he stays for his senior year, he's likely to be a top 3-5 QB, and would have a good shot at the first round. I have a hard time seeing him going earlier than the late third this year, talented as he may be. That said, if he does come out, I bet Chan would love to have him. He's a big, fast spread QB with a good arm. Edited November 10, 2012 by Maguire's Beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I'd draft a real MLB and OLB in 1st 2 rounds and try and get Nassib in 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimetdrm Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 BARKLEY SUCKS and won't be a good qb. The qb from Texas a & m will be a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Duck Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Patriots had the second worst defense last year. The Giants defense was ranked #27 last year. GB went 15-1 with the last ranked defense in the league. Sooooo......I'm sorry what was your point again? Are you trying to prove to me defense doesn't matter, hehe, thats hilarious buddy Ever think maybe the teams you mentioned defensive rankings were skewed a little with opponents playing catch up? How many Aaron Rodgers and Tom Bradys are in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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