Bufcomments Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Fred Jackson is one of my favorite All-time Bills. Thought i'd say that first off. What he has done since being a Bill, where he came from and what he means to this team you can't measure. I respect him enough to buy his jersey. What he did before getting hurt was amazing. But.... This year is different and so is C.J. Spillers game has gone up maybe 2 notches from last year. He was putting up MVP type numbers before he hurt his shoulder. In the AZ game he seemed back to his Madden ways. He reminds me of a faster Marshall Faulk if that's even possible. I say its time to let him get the bulk of the carries. Its Spiller time. This is what they saw when the drafted him and now its time. Let the man get 22-25 carries a game and when the Bills line gets back to full strength so he is gonna be even better. You can show Fred some love in goal line situations because he is the stronger back. But let C.J. move the ball down the field. What yall think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I may go for this when CJ quits running out of bounds to avoid tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 It is a no-brainer to everyone except Chan and FJ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I love Fred. Cj should be getting 70%+ of touches between them. He's that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 This offense needs a rhythm and you cannot be swapping the RBs...You have to go with one and play him in the game. and that has to be Spiller based on this years productivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Spiller hands down. Too explosive to be left off field. This pop gun offense needs the home run threat can't trust others to extend drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I may go for this when CJ quits running out of bounds to avoid tackles. I have no problem with saving his body from unnecessary hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) I like Fred as he done a good job as the prime back (before CJ stepped it up), but if they split time I'd prefer CJ as the #1. When and if (barring inury) that doesn't work rethink it and go back to a near 50/50 split that just isn't jelling. Look at the YPC average, in this case that stat says it all. at 7.6 Yards Per Rush Attempt (#1 in the NFL) he can slide and run out of bounds all he wants. Edited October 17, 2012 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I may go for this when CJ quits running out of bounds to avoid tackles. It's ok if he's doing it 30 yds past the line of scrimmage and is boxed in, don't need to take unnecissary hits and risk injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Its a one, two punch. We need both to be effective. They are both starters. Fred is the tough guy. CJ is awesome but I don't think he can carry the entire load himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBill Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Fred Jackson is one of my favorite All-time Bills. Thought i'd say that first off. What he has done since being a Bill, where he came from and what he means to this team you can't measure. I respect him enough to buy his jersey. What he did before getting hurt was amazing. But.... This year is different and so is C.J. Spillers game has gone up maybe 2 notches from last year. He was putting up MVP type numbers before he hurt his shoulder. In the AZ game he seemed back to his Madden ways. He reminds me of a faster Marshall Faulk if that's even possible. I say its time to let him get the bulk of the carries. Its Spiller time. This is what they saw when the drafted him and now its time. Let the man get 22-25 carries a game and when the Bills line gets back to full strength so he is gonna be even better. You can show Fred some love in goal line situations because he is the stronger back. But let C.J. move the ball down the field. What yall think? I think CJ has taken major steps this season, but he still isn't a complete back and I kinda like keeping the defense on their toes splitting the carries. I know Fred fumbled the first play of the game sunday, but he is still less likely overall to fumble on a big hit then CJ is. I like the splitting but it still seems like Gailey could use them better, for example, I would never have CJ in when it is down at the 1 or 2 yard line and you are running up the gut, he is too small and takes too big of hits doing that (see the end of the first half against the Pats). Fred has much more power, better up the gut, but he isn't as quick as CJ and isn't as big a threat in open field. That said, I really like when they have both of them in the backfield, really keeps the defense from playing towards one strength and they have to be prepared for either one of them. Not to mention, all backs can get hurt, and CJ is certainly no exception to that, especially since he is so small, splitting carries will help in keeping the both as healthy as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I have no problem with saving his body from unnecessary hits no problem at all. Ask RGIII how staying in bounds and taking the hit turned out week before last. Last time he does that... sidelines are now "cheap shot city" in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I may go for this when CJ quits running out of bounds to avoid tackles. Or you could watch a highlight of the play you keep referencing and realize CJ didn't "quit" on the play -- he saved himself unnecessary punishment for what would have been a negligible gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 The NFL is now a duo RB league.... Leave things how they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I love Freddie, but the touches need to be 2/3 CJ and 1/3 Freddie at this point. CJ should be the main back, with Freddie spelling him every couple of drives. Or put them both on the field at the same time. But CJs earned the right to be the #1 over Freddie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) I love how people ignore the runs, and success that each of these backs have in different situations. Spiller has been run almost exclusively out of the shotgun, or 3 wr sets. Obviously this works very well for him due to his speed, this also helps give him a ridiculous YPC number. FJ has been getting most of the carries out of single back sets, short yardage, and the rare power formation. FJ almost always gets at least 3 yards, and is terrific running inside, even when blocking breaks down. I know biased Spiller lovers will never accept this, but this is his weakness. He is not a strong runner, and often takes losses on these types of run (he has been getting very few of these carries this year). Bottom line, we need them both. I thought the mixed running game worked great last week, until Gailey's stroke and he decided to let Brad Smith throw. Mixing in FJ changes the pace and will actually HELP Spiller make more big plays. Plus he gives us a reliable power runner. When/if we get the lead we want FJ to be able to grind away, keep the D off the field for a bit. Edited October 17, 2012 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Fred is the supercharged Camaro and CJ is the Porche in a two car garage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) I think CJ has taken major steps this season, but he still isn't a complete back and I kinda like keeping the defense on their toes splitting the carries. I know Fred fumbled the first play of the game sunday, but he is still less likely overall to fumble on a big hit then CJ is. I like the splitting but it still seems like Gailey could use them better, for example, I would never have CJ in when it is down at the 1 or 2 yard line and you are running up the gut, he is too small and takes too big of hits doing that (see the end of the first half against the Pats). Fred has much more power, better up the gut, but he isn't as quick as CJ and isn't as big a threat in open field. That said, I really like when they have both of them in the backfield, really keeps the defense from playing towards one strength and they have to be prepared for either one of them. Not to mention, all backs can get hurt, and CJ is certainly no exception to that, especially since he is so small, splitting carries will help in keeping the both as healthy as possible. This ^ When you have two good weapons, you use them both. In fact Gailey often had them both on the field at the same time last game. It kind of boggles my mind why people would only want to use one or the other... Edited October 17, 2012 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggieScooby Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 CJ started adding the Madden spin & Madden levitation we haven't seen since the 90s Madden games!!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenews Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 It's Spiller Time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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