Saint Doug Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Bills blowout loses under Chan Gailey: 34-7, 38-14, 38-14, 34-3, 38-7, 44-7, 35-8. 37-10, 49-21, 48-28, 52-28, 45-3 There's a lot of garbage time points I see there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Chan was 9-7 over the 2010-2011 seasons, or does this game not apply when it's good news? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 Chan was 9-7 over the 2010-2011 seasons, or does this game not apply when it's good news? PTR Are you really wanting to defend Chan right now? Th point of the exercise is to say that this team's downward spiral started last year and continues into this season. I will be happy for Chan if he can turn this around. This outcome just seems highly unlikely though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 The answer to Chan is this... in my opinion Fitx IS the problem. i hate to say it but the guys are getting open enough. lots left on the field from the passing game. So who is truly to blame. Should Buddy have drafted the qb last year at all cost or a hefty sacrifice? I find it hard to believe Chan told Nix that Ryan Fitzpatrick was the guy to get the ring. Maybe Chan is stuck with him? What the heck can he say then? Chan is smart but should be OC. The team is really young considering the lockout. Getting this team turned around over these last years has been painful at times. I am just going to wait the year out before calling Off with their heads. I am sure they all know without us reminding them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) Chan was 9-7 over the 2010-2011 seasons, or does this game not apply when it's good news? PTR Dick Jauron was 11-6 over 2007-2008, including stretches of 6-2 and 5-1. I guess he's good too. Lets re-HIRE Dick Jauron !!!11 Seriously Well one thing is for sure, Dick Jauron knows defense better than Nix or Gailey, which is no surprise. Nix and Gailey destroyed a decent defense in record time when they took over. My question is which is worse, the Bills offenses under Jauron or their defenses under Gailey? And which trademark catch phrase is worse: "If I had the answer I would have already solved the problem. I don't have the answer"- Chan Gailey. or "It's hard to win in the NFL"- Dick Jauron Edited October 12, 2012 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Chan was 9-7 over the 2010-2011 seasons, or does this game not apply when it's good news? PTR 2010 4-12 2011 6-10 2012 2-3 and those 2 wins over the 0-5 Browns & 1-4 Chiefs. Those 3 losses Jets-Patriots-49ers the Bills set new records for being a bad defense 12-25 says it all. The 3rd year is when the team is supposed to come together, instead its falling apart. Worst defense in the history of the franchise Time to concede Gailey IS worse then Dick Jauron, and Mike Mularkey, and Greg Williams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 My question is which is worse, the Bills offenses under Jauron or their defenses under Gailey? And which trademark catch phrase is worse: "If I had the answer I would have already solved the problem. I don't have the answer"- Chan Gailey. or "It's hard to win in the NFL"- Dick Jauron Both of the iconic phrases are equally inept. However, "I don't have the answer" is something that should never have been said outside the locker-room or to his subordinates.That statement was after his pathetic coaching lead to the historic failure both for the franchise and the NFL, for two games in a row, is among one of the lowest points in a franchise that has many. Any criticism coming his way is deserved. He needs to get fired at the bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 2010 4-12 2011 6-10 2012 2-3 and those 2 wins over the 0-5 Browns & 1-4 Chiefs. Those 3 losses Jets-Patriots-49ers the Bills set new records for being a bad defense 12-25 says it all. The 3rd year is when the team is supposed to come together, instead its falling apart. Worst defense in the history of the franchise Time to concede Gailey IS worse then Dick Jauron, and Mike Mularkey, and Greg Williams! This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstealer Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Mike Holmgren will be available December 31st. Maybe Bring in Favre as head coach. --last part a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 If we loose this week & Wanny isn't fired and Fitz benched, then I'm all for cleaning house. 2013 rebuild - Polian as GM, Perry Fewell as HC, DeHaven ST, and any one of several for OC (Norv Turner, Nolan, etc......) Chan wouldn't be bad as an OC if there was someone to force his hand on issues such as picking a starting QB. Perry Fewell just might be excited about & know how to use the talent we now have on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 If we loose this week & Wanny isn't fired and Fitz benched, then I'm all for cleaning house. 2013 rebuild - Polian as GM, Perry Fewell as HC, DeHaven ST, and any one of several for OC (Norv Turner, Nolan, etc......) Chan wouldn't be bad as an OC if there was someone to force his hand on issues such as picking a starting QB. Perry Fewell just might be excited about & know how to use the talent we now have on D. I thought Fewell did a great job as an interim coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjames24 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 There's a lot of garbage time points I see there. Works both ways. Bills 28 pts vs Jets this year were mostly garbage time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) I thought Fewell did a great job as an interim coach. Which is why we ran him out of town. Remember how bent we were on getting rid of everyone associated with Dick Jauron? PTR Edited October 12, 2012 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) 2010 4-12 2011 6-10 2012 2-3 and those 2 wins over the 0-5 Browns & 1-4 Chiefs. Those 3 losses Jets-Patriots-49ers the Bills set new records for being a bad defense 12-25 says it all. The 3rd year is when the team is supposed to come together, instead its falling apart. Worst defense in the history of the franchise Time to concede Gailey IS worse then Dick Jauron, and Mike Mularkey, and Greg Williams! Calling Capt. Hindsight! Just curious if you only joined TBD in the last few years. That may explain the lack of recall of the Jauron, Mularkey, Greggo and Wade Phillips eras. I remember them vividly. Each and every time (insert name here) was the worst coach in Bills history...at least according to TBD. Remember why we said Phillips sucked? He wouldn't wear a headset! And he spoke with a southern accent so he sounded dumb. How about "Meathead" Mike? Called a pass play on 3rd & goal against Miami instead of running like we all knew he should of. Wound up blowing a 21-0 lead and losing. Greggo and his airhorn, Jauron and his blank stare, Fewell because he had the stink of Jauron on him. We always know what coaches are idiots and need to be fired. Like clock work we turn on every coach and clamor to start the process again, buying another 3 years of no playoffs. PTR Edited October 12, 2012 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since 1972 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Dick Jauron was 11-6 over 2007-2008, including stretches of 6-2 and 5-1. I guess he's good too. Well one thing is for sure, Dick Jauron knows defense better than Nix or Gailey, which is no surprise. Nix and Gailey destroyed a decent defense in record time when they took over. My question is which is worse, the Bills offenses under Jauron or their defenses under Gailey? And which trademark catch phrase is worse: "If I had the answer I would have already solved the problem. I don't have the answer"- Chan Gailey. or "It's hard to win in the NFL"- Dick Jauron This ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 There was a telling stat on WGR the other day: Chan has more 20+ point loses than he does wins since he has been the coach here. Get this guy the F out of here. In over his damn head. Although at least he wanted this job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Calling Capt. Hindsight! Just curious if you only joined TBD in the last few years. That may explain the lack of recall of the Jauron, Mularkey, Greggo and Wade Phillips eras. I remember them vividly. Each and every time (insert name here) was the worst coach in Bills history...at least according to TBD. Remember why we said Phillips sucked? He wouldn't wear a headset! And he spoke with a southern accent so he sounded dumb. How about "Meathead" Mike? Called a pass play on 3rd & goal against Miami instead of running like we all knew he should of. Wound up blowing a 21-0 lead and losing. Greggo and his airhorn, Jauron and his blank stare, Fewell because he had the stink of Jauron on him. We always know what coaches are idiots and need to be fired. Like clock work we turn on every coach and clamor to start the process again, buying another 3 years of no playoffs. PTR None of these coaches you are "defending" were any good. Just because they got it wrong again doesn't make Chan better or worse than those you mentioned. He is the same - not a good HC. You can do the same thing for the QB situation. They have failed repeatedly finding either one. This buying another 3 years you speak of - do you honestly think Chan can be or is a quality hc? He was average in his stop in Dallas and again at G Tech - I don't see any correlation between him being bad and the others being bad. Why does holding on to Chan somehow accelerate that timetable if his record shows otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Chan is overall an above average OC & bad HC. Fire Wanny & sit Fitz already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 None of these coaches you are "defending" were any good. Just because they got it wrong again doesn't make Chan better or worse than those you mentioned. He is the same - not a good HC. You can do the same thing for the QB situation. They have failed repeatedly finding either one. This buying another 3 years you speak of - do you honestly think Chan can be or is a quality hc? He was average in his stop in Dallas and again at G Tech - I don't see any correlation between him being bad and the others being bad. Why does holding on to Chan somehow accelerate that timetable if his record shows otherwise. I was hardly defending anyone. Just pointing out the broken record merry-go-round we are on. We run guys out of town then want to bring them back. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I was hardly defending anyone. Just pointing out the broken record merry-go-round we are on. We run guys out of town then want to bring them back. PTR Yeah I thought that which is why I put the defending in my op in quotes. It is a sad state of affairs. Maybe Kevin Costner will help though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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