cmjoyce113 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 ... Yea that was Pete Carroll too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 And not replacement refs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmjoyce113 Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 I'm just saying its strange both games had Carroll as coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Exactly my point - that the 'real' refs are just as bad as the replacement refs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I remember thinking how he knew that game during his on field interview last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cereal Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I was trying to find highlights for this game a year or two ago and I think I failed. Maybe they'll come up somewhere after last night's travesty. First Music City Miracle Part Two on Sunday, now this.... what's next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I was trying to find highlights for this game a year or two ago and I think I failed. Maybe they'll come up somewhere after last night's travesty. First Music City Miracle Part Two on Sunday, now this.... what's next? Karma is twisting. Don't forget that Arizona pulled a McLelvin on New England and Pats* still lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 that IS strange and that is literally the ONLY time ive ever seen pi in the ez on a hail mary. they just dont call it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billygoats Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Those highlights remind me how fun Flutie was, how good our jersies used to look and how lame the pats/carroll were for running the ball in for two. What poor sportmanship, the refs litterally gifted them the game two plays in a row and then they chose to disrespect their opponent who left the field in disgust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 God, I miss Flutie and Moulds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) I was trying to find highlights for this game a year or two ago and I think I failed. Maybe they'll come up somewhere after last night's travesty. First Music City Miracle Part Two on Sunday, now this.... what's next? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xbJ-2YaRLIc Edited September 25, 2012 by JÂy RÛßeÒ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Interesting, Gregg Easterbrook references this exact game in his column today. http://espn.go.com/espn/playbook/story/_/id/8421050/the-replacement-referees-losing-control-coaches-players-worse-blown-calls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I forgot that the give it to em was followed by that pass interference call on Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbJ-2YaRLIc pass interference call is at 2:22. the "just give it too em" play is not shown. Isn't it the Shawn Jefferson catch at 2:03? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 not ONLY was it not a catch, it didnt make the first down marker even if it was. then the cherry on the cake, the pi call in the ez which i have never seen called before or after that truly the worst blown call series in the history of blown calls, literally gifting the game to the cheaters even before they were the cheaters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) I was thinking of this game in 2001. That's when the Patriots really started getting the calls. Unconscious player recovers a fumble half out of bounds with the ball under his leg. "The game turned on the overturn of a ruling that Patten fumbled after making a reception after five minutes of overtime. Patten caught Brady's pass at the Bills 41, where he was hit hard by Buffalo's Keion Carpenter. The ball popped loose and was recovered by Buffalo's Nate Clements. Referee Mike Carey determined by a video review that Patten's head was out of bounds while the ball remained loose under his leg. Antowain Smith broke the game open on the ensuing play, bouncing off the pile and down the sideline before he was pushed out of bounds at the 3, setting up the game-winning kick. "It's their job to make the calls," Patriots coach Bill Belichick said. "We can just control how we play. If we got a break on the call, great." Patten couldn't comment on the call. Carpenter's hit knocked him unconscious." Edited September 26, 2012 by kasper13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) That "just give it to em" game, combined with another blown call: the Vinny Testaverde BS goal line call in Seattle the following week, cost us the division and a home playoff game. Edited September 26, 2012 by filthymcnasty08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Those highlights remind me how fun Flutie was, how good our jersies used to look and how lame the pats/carroll were for running the ball in for two. What poor sportmanship, the refs litterally gifted them the game two plays in a row and then they chose to disrespect their opponent who left the field in disgust. your nuts, these are the best bills jerseys in bills history, 90s jerseys are a close 2nd though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Isn't it the Shawn Jefferson catch at 2:03? http://www.billsdaily.com/articles/1998/nep2.html recap of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Flutie was such a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 http://www.billsdail.../1998/nep2.html recap of the game The Shawn Jefferson play at 2:03 of the video is the "just give it to'em" play, which is why Berman questions if he is in. The Bills Daily article is incorrect when it references Tony Simmons--- Tony Simmons was on the NE roster in 1998 but isn't in the box score for that game: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/199811290nwe.htm I've always loved Ralph's response to the fine--- linked to in the Bills Daily link Here's Bills Owner Ralph Wilson's complete statement regarding the $50,000 fine handed down by Commissioner Paul Tagliabue: "On December 2nd I received a fax from Commissioner Paul Tagliabue informing me the Bills are being fined $50,000 for criticism on my part of officiating in the last moments of our game with New England. I described two calls, back-to-back, as probably the worst I have witnessed in the 60 years I have watched pro football. Those two calls cost the Bills a very important game, one in which our team fought back very courageously from a substantial deficit. Society today is more enlightened. Fair comment and criticism are rampant. The entire media as a unit is frank and the millions watching a game are frank. But the Commissioner lecturing to me as if I were a novice, instead of one who has been involved in football infinitely longer than he has, contends that criticizing a call has 'destructive and corrosive effects on the game.' What is more destructive and corrosive -- errant calls in front of millions of viewers or my statements of opinion? People all over the country registered shock at the way the officials, however honorable their purpose, took the game away from us. Even the league has admitted to us that the calls near the conclusion of the game were incorrect. On Monday morning, the Commissioner can sermonize on destruction and corrosion, but he has never experienced the pain of blowing a crucial game due to officiating. I have yet to decide whether I will pay or challenge the fine. But, at 80, I do know I don't need pompous lectures from the Commissioner and I feel that the $50,000 is not only unwarranted, but punitive in nature. The next time he may ask me to sit in the corner." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Must. Resist. Ralph is cheap comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 The Shawn Jefferson play at 2:03 of the video is the "just give it to'em" play, which is why Berman questions if he is in. The Bills Daily article is incorrect when it references Tony Simmons--- Tony Simmons was on the NE roster in 1998 but isn't in the box score for that game: http://www.pro-footb...99811290nwe.htm I've always loved Ralph's response to the fine--- linked to in the Bills Daily link Here's Bills Owner Ralph Wilson's complete statement regarding the $50,000 fine handed down by Commissioner Paul Tagliabue: "On December 2nd I received a fax from Commissioner Paul Tagliabue informing me the Bills are being fined $50,000 for criticism on my part of officiating in the last moments of our game with New England. I described two calls, back-to-back, as probably the worst I have witnessed in the 60 years I have watched pro football. Those two calls cost the Bills a very important game, one in which our team fought back very courageously from a substantial deficit. Society today is more enlightened. Fair comment and criticism are rampant. The entire media as a unit is frank and the millions watching a game are frank. But the Commissioner lecturing to me as if I were a novice, instead of one who has been involved in football infinitely longer than he has, contends that criticizing a call has 'destructive and corrosive effects on the game.' What is more destructive and corrosive -- errant calls in front of millions of viewers or my statements of opinion? People all over the country registered shock at the way the officials, however honorable their purpose, took the game away from us. Even the league has admitted to us that the calls near the conclusion of the game were incorrect. On Monday morning, the Commissioner can sermonize on destruction and corrosion, but he has never experienced the pain of blowing a crucial game due to officiating. I have yet to decide whether I will pay or challenge the fine. But, at 80, I do know I don't need pompous lectures from the Commissioner and I feel that the $50,000 is not only unwarranted, but punitive in nature. The next time he may ask me to sit in the corner." Classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 The Shawn Jefferson play at 2:03 of the video is the "just give it to'em" play, which is why Berman questions if he is in. The Bills Daily article is incorrect when it references Tony Simmons--- Tony Simmons was on the NE roster in 1998 but isn't in the box score for that game: http://www.pro-footb...99811290nwe.htm I've always loved Ralph's response to the fine--- linked to in the Bills Daily link Here's Bills Owner Ralph Wilson's complete statement regarding the $50,000 fine handed down by Commissioner Paul Tagliabue: "On December 2nd I received a fax from Commissioner Paul Tagliabue informing me the Bills are being fined $50,000 for criticism on my part of officiating in the last moments of our game with New England. I described two calls, back-to-back, as probably the worst I have witnessed in the 60 years I have watched pro football. Those two calls cost the Bills a very important game, one in which our team fought back very courageously from a substantial deficit. Society today is more enlightened. Fair comment and criticism are rampant. The entire media as a unit is frank and the millions watching a game are frank. But the Commissioner lecturing to me as if I were a novice, instead of one who has been involved in football infinitely longer than he has, contends that criticizing a call has 'destructive and corrosive effects on the game.' What is more destructive and corrosive -- errant calls in front of millions of viewers or my statements of opinion? People all over the country registered shock at the way the officials, however honorable their purpose, took the game away from us. Even the league has admitted to us that the calls near the conclusion of the game were incorrect. On Monday morning, the Commissioner can sermonize on destruction and corrosion, but he has never experienced the pain of blowing a crucial game due to officiating. I have yet to decide whether I will pay or challenge the fine. But, at 80, I do know I don't need pompous lectures from the Commissioner and I feel that the $50,000 is not only unwarranted, but punitive in nature. The next time he may ask me to sit in the corner." Thank you for posting this, I had forgotten about it. Truly classic response from RW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I seem to remember that the son of one of the officials, maybe the referee, was playing for a team that would benefit from a Bills loss. I think it was David Boston. When Wade Phillips had the Bills go to the lockerroom instead of defending the extra point after the bogus touchdown, he won me over for life. If Pete Carroll had an ounce of class in his body, he would have pulled his team off the field when Wade did. At the very least he should have settled for the one-point kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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