boyst Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Which is how exactly? Let him make it up as he goes? PTR But...you don't know anything, maaan. It worked for him and Tebow and others in offense. He has balla skills. You can't match that. Imagine Vick on our team. VY can do that! /sarcasm. If we can get Vince Young to play QB and maintain a level of poise at the LOS we could have a backup. If he looks at the LOS and sees it as 11 hats then we are in trouble. The only way we can utilize his skillset is if we create it. Jeff Fisher was not as good at offense as Gailey and Lee is undouvtably better then whoever his QB coach was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Either somebody dropkicked my sarcasm meter in the throat, or you've been "misremembering" PTR's posts. His sarcasm towards those who truly are doom-and-gloom are nearing legendary status. He's one of the most positive posters (in a weird, sarcastic way) on the board. Also, your screen name is hindering any chance of you being taken seriously, just an FYI. Of course it was sarcasm. The Bills Could find themselves at 1 - 5 with Brad Smith as the only healthy QB and I'd expect PTR to try and find a silver lining to give us hope for a playoff run. That's why it's so amazing to see a post giving us reason to worry during the most optimistic preseason in many years. PTR - are you just a contrarian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Of course it was sarcasm. The Bills Could find themselves at 1 - 5 with Brad Smith as the only healthy QB and I'd expect PTR to try and find a silver lining to give us hope for a playoff run. That's why it's so amazing to see a post giving us reason to worry during the most optimistic preseason in many years. PTR - are you just a contrarian? Your antics are growing tired on many and if I was PTR I would nor respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Which is how exactly? Let him make it up as he goes? PTR Did you actually read my post before posting a smart ass comment? clearly you missed it the first time...Young still is a better viable option at back up or WC QB with a strong running game, and running to set up the pass. With what the author stated in utilizing more play action and bootlegs. In other words, why would the coaches try and make a round peg fit into a square hole. Andy Reid didn't get it done in Philly with Vince Young trying to learn the WCO. However the difference is... that the Bills brought in Brad Smith last season 4 year 15 million to run the wildcat offense. Young is certainly the better option for running the WC. BTW Brad Smith is listed as the 4th or "other" after Thigpen and Young. Like I stated in that first post, what happened to Tyler Thigpen? Isn't he the very same guy that Gailey coached back in 08 at KC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 Did you actually read my post before posting a smart ass comment? clearly you missed it the first time...Young still is a better viable option at back up or WC QB with a strong running game, and running to set up the pass. With what the author stated in utilizing more play action and bootlegs. In other words, why would the coaches try and make a round peg fit into a square hole. Andy Reid didn't get it done in Philly with Vince Young trying to learn the WCO. However the difference is... that the Bills brought in Brad Smith last season 4 year 15 million to run the wildcat offense. Young is certainly the better option for running the WC. BTW Brad Smith is listed as the 4th or "other" after Thigpen and Young. Like I stated in that first post, what happened to Tyler Thigpen? Isn't he the very same guy that Gailey coached back in 08 at KC? I don't know why Thigpen is struggling now. As for square pegs, round holes, etc, there comes a point where raw athleticism only gets you so far. Doug Flutie enjoyed that surprise factor for as few weeks. I'm sure if you threw VY in and let him do it his way he'd make some highlight reel plays. But eventually the NFL catches on to your act. No player, no matter how athletic, can beat a properly executed defensive game plan. In fact I bet a player who relies on pure athleticism is the easiest to defend because his tendencies are simple to predict. Chan Gailey is building an offense that allows for multiple results from similar formations. As hard as it is for a QB to master it's even harder to defend against because everything looks the same until the snap. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintmyhouse Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Hilarious to worry about backup QB when the starter has only led the team to 10 wins over the last 2 seasons. Big Deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 Hilarious to worry about backup QB when the starter has only led the team to 10 wins over the last 2 seasons. Big Deal. Nothing gets by you, Vince Lomabardi. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Geeez, give it time, Its not even preseason yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ko12010 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Read between the lines of this quote from David Lee in Mark Gaughan's article this morning, talking about Vince Young and the backup QB battle: "When you get a guy that's really great at something - and he's a great runner - it makes him exceptional and it makes him more difficult to defend, and it gives you a chance for more big plays," Lee said. "That's what we saw Sunday night. We're not discouraging that. It's something you can't coach." My guess is that their thinking with Young is that they have a truly exceptional talent and they can teach him the other stuff. Chan did it with Kordell Stewart and Young is better than Kordell. Remember, people knock him for his intelligence too. It's sad that in 2012 that African-American QBs are still stereotyped as great athletes and short on intelligence. Actually, it's worse than sad, it's pathetic. I actually think Vince Young may not be that intelligent. Not stereotyping. I think he'll win the backup job because he's shown he's a winner and with some reps will probably get his confidence back. We honestly may have to simplify the playbook if Fitz were to get hurt and Young had to come in. I think Young, with the coaches and teammates supporting him, will do fine. Nothing gets by you, Vince Lomabardi. PTR Paintmyhouse has to be Trent Edwards, he just has to be. Or maybe he was a classmate at Harvard who Fitz beat on a test or something. Although, paintmyhouse seems like an idiot so I doubt he went to Harvard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintmyhouse Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Yes, I am Trent Edwards, makes perfect sense. Geez talk about calling someone an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I don't know why Thigpen is struggling now. As for square pegs, round holes, etc, there comes a point where raw athleticism only gets you so far. Doug Flutie enjoyed that surprise factor for as few weeks. I'm sure if you threw VY in and let him do it his way he'd make some highlight reel plays. But eventually the NFL catches on to your act. No player, no matter how athletic, can beat a properly executed defensive game plan. In fact I bet a player who relies on pure athleticism is the easiest to defend because his tendencies are simple to predict. Chan Gailey is building an offense that allows for multiple results from similar formations. As hard as it is for a QB to master it's even harder to defend against because everything looks the same until the snap. PTR If Gailey were truly a megamind, then why hasn't Tyler Thigpen picked up on Gaileys quick strike offense yet? Why didn't Trent Edwards? why didn't Levi Brown? why didn't Brian Brohm? Can Brad Smith run it? My take is Chan Gailey is taking credit for Fitz's ability to read the defense, and set protections, find the open WR in 1.5 to 3 seconds and deliver the ball. Because how is it that he can't get 6 other QB's to do what Fitz does and one of those 6 he worked with as his primary QB for an entire season. The obvious solution is to simplify the offense for the back ups until they learn how to run it, and if they never learn...well, that is what the draft is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 The reason why I dont worry is because I believe if we ever have to turn to VY (and yeah I think he is gonna win the competition for backup) Chan is one of the best at tailoring his offense around the talent he has..... They will dummy it down.....and do something where his athletisism and running ability will come into play.....they would have him make less reads etc etc etc Im not worried.....but this is a position that really needs to be addressed in the next offseason. I really think that now we have our defense in order we need to start thinking about a QB of the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Well then, I guess it's good that we have 4 preseason games and almost 6 weeks until the season starts. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 If Gailey were truly a megamind, then why hasn't Tyler Thigpen picked up on Gaileys quick strike offense yet? Why didn't Trent Edwards? why didn't Levi Brown? why didn't Brian Brohm? Can Brad Smith run it? So let me get this straight...If Chan is so smart can't these other QBs run his offense? Uhhhh, maybe because they couldn't...and that's why they aren't here anymore? My take is Chan Gailey is taking credit for Fitz's ability to read the defense, and set protections, find the open WR in 1.5 to 3 seconds and deliver the ball. Because how is it that he can't get 6 other QB's to do what Fitz does and one of those 6 he worked with as his primary QB for an entire season. You may have hit on the very reason Fitz is our starter. The obvious solution is to simplify the offense for the back ups until they learn how to run it, and if they never learn...well, that is what the draft is for. So instead of making your offense harder to gameplan against, make it easier? And that is better how? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billshank Redemption Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Ill give it until the 2nd or 3rd game before I start freaking out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 youtube.com/watch?v=xSLlZh9yelk Yea .. no most would not feel that way about Russell Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) ... Chan Gailey proved to me last season with his constant calling for 4-5 WR spread, shotgun passing plays with an injured QB, one decent WR that he is no better then Turk Schonert or Alex Van Pelt. Because that is the exact same crap they both used to call all game long with JP Losman & Trent Edwards. Hey, you know what. Those two boneheads no longer in a coordinators job did better with 2 scrub broken QB's then megamind has done with Fitz, who everyone acknowledges is far and away a better QB then those 2. ... There is little to no resemblance between Gailey's offense and anything run by Schonert or Van Pelt. And while I agree that Chan's play calling can leave a bit to be desired at times, I'm not convinced that Fitz is more responsible given the freedom he has in changing plays at the LOS. GO BILLS!!! Edited August 2, 2012 by K-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 backup TIGHT END is even worse..... quick.....can you even name who the 2nd & 3rd tight end is on the depth chart ?....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) backup TIGHT END is even worse..... quick.....can you even name who the 2nd & 3rd tight end is on the depth chart ?....... Chandler is the starter now with Fendi Onubun as backup since Lee Smith is the in line blocker and Dickerson is hardly a TE. Oh, and Causin is there with Brock. Edited August 2, 2012 by jboyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Gailey not happy with VY or Thigpen. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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