95altima12 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 So I have been talking with a huge Eagles fan about the possibility of trading down.... They have the 15ths and are really wanting Fletcher Cox, if he is not drafted by CAR they would want to move to us. A Philly expert fan says they would give up a third (88th pick) to move up. Maybe Gilmore would still be there at 15... Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Depends on how much the Bills like Floyd. If they're "meh" on him like I think they are, I say do that trade and snag Cordy Glenn, Gilmore of Kirkpatrick at #15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaMike Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 If Floyd is there, I would not move down. If Floyd is gone, then I would consider it. I don't pretend to know the "table" they have for how much to get for exchanging draft picks, but to me a 3rd round pick does not seem like enough to get to move down 5 spots. Maybe a 3rd this year and a 2nd next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 i actually think if the Eagles move up it would be to get Barron i dont think the 15th and their 3rd gets it done though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95altima12 Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 If Floyd is there, I would not move down. If Floyd is gone, then I would consider it. I don't pretend to know the "table" they have for how much to get for exchanging draft picks, but to me a 3rd round pick does not seem like enough to get to move down 5 spots. Maybe a 3rd this year and a 2nd next year? Judging by draft value chart a 3 and 2 next is way too much but I agree need little more then a third and a 5th or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billshank Redemption Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 1st and 2nd Then swap 3s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beebe's Kid Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 1st and 2nd Then swap 3s Wow...that would be a sweatheart of a deal, wouldn't it? You'd have to hope that somebody was asleep at the wheel in Philly, I suppose, or that they have a Tebowner for the guy at that spot. Stranger things have happened, I guess.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Wow...that would be a sweatheart of a deal, wouldn't it? You'd have to hope that somebody was asleep at the wheel in Philly, I suppose, or that they have a Tebowner for the guy at that spot. Stranger things have happened, I guess.... essentially swapping first and third, and the eagles throw in a mid 2 to make both moves? id take it as the bills, and dont think its ABSURD for the eagles Judging by draft value chart a 3 and 2 next is way too much but I agree need little more then a third and a 5th or something. does it bother anyone else that any time any idea is ever mentioned its measured against a chart that is simply based off about 5 random years of trades in the 80's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 i have a few friends who are big eagles fans and they think the same thing about moving to 10 if either kuechly or cox is there. would be nice but its really up to the eagles to make that offer. and if the bills want to move back that many spots. as much love that floyd gets around here idk if i see him as the pick. the bills didnt even bring him in for a workout. and yes they didnt bring aaron williams in either but he was a 2nd and they didnt think hed be there is my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Giving up a 2 to move up 5 spots in round 1 seems reasonable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 So I have been talking with a huge Eagles fan about the possibility of trading down.... They have the 15ths and are really wanting Fletcher Cox, if he is not drafted by CAR they would want to move to us. A Philly expert fan says they would give up a third (88th pick) to move up. Maybe Gilmore would still be there at 15... Thoughts? I have an idea. Why don't we tell the Eagles to beat it and we draft Fletcher Cox? I would love for us to fortify our DL, take a couple of CBs and a LB in the first 4 or 5 rounds and REALLY build this roster/team for the next few years. With the other couple of picks by the 5th rd we should take a developemental OT and a decent 2nd WR (Brian Quick?). Just an idea. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 i have a few friends who are big eagles fans and they think the same thing about moving to 10 if either kuechly or cox is there. would be nice but its really up to the eagles to make that offer. and if the bills want to move back that many spots. as much love that floyd gets around here idk if i see him as the pick. the bills didnt even bring him in for a workout. and yes they didnt bring aaron williams in either but he was a 2nd and they didnt think hed be there is my guess. eagles are notorious for sending out pre-draft feelers for what it would take to move. my guess is that its probably been visited by the teams but how seriously is a whole different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 They have the 15ths and are really wanting Fletcher Cox, if he is not drafted by CAR they would want to move to us. Their fans do. That doesn't mean the team does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecgetty Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Wow...that would be a sweatheart of a deal, wouldn't it? You'd have to hope that somebody was asleep at the wheel in Philly, I suppose, or that they have a Tebowner for the guy at that spot. Stranger things have happened, I guess.... A Tebowner....that is classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Are the eagles aware that their fans are trying to trade draft picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 simulating your idea, the trade nets us Dwayne Allen, and lets us still get Kuechly: 15 Buffalo Luke Kuechly ILB Boston College 41 Buffalo Alshon Jeffery WRF South Carolina 71 Buffalo Brandon Mosley OT Auburn 88 Buffalo Dwayne Allen TE Clemson 105 Buffalo Reuben Randle WRF LSU 124 Buffalo Shaun Prater CB Iowa 144 Buffalo Emmanuel Acho OLB43 Texas 147 Buffalo Jarius Wright WRS Arkansas 178 Buffalo Olivier Vernon DE43 Miami (FL) 217 Buffalo Jacory Harris QB Miami (FL) 251 Buffalo Jamie Blatnick DE43 Oklahoma State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 simulating your idea, the trade nets us Dwayne Allen, and lets us still get Kuechly: 15 Buffalo Luke Kuechly ILB Boston College 41 Buffalo Alshon Jeffery WRF South Carolina 71 Buffalo Brandon Mosley OT Auburn 88 Buffalo Dwayne Allen TE Clemson 105 Buffalo Reuben Randle WRF LSU 124 Buffalo Shaun Prater CB Iowa 144 Buffalo Emmanuel Acho OLB43 Texas 147 Buffalo Jarius Wright WRS Arkansas 178 Buffalo Olivier Vernon DE43 Miami (FL) 217 Buffalo Jacory Harris QB Miami (FL) 251 Buffalo Jamie Blatnick DE43 Oklahoma State Didn't Buddy mention something about bigger CBs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Judging by draft value chart a 3 and 2 next is way too much but I agree need little more then a third and a 5th or something. On the other hand, if the Bills moved down 5 spots and came away with a player they ranked as good as their 10th best player (in other words, if they had 10-15 ranked evenly)… and they could pick up an extra 3rd, why not? You always want to get as much as possible but what if the bottom line on the trade is that it helps the team? Are the eagles aware that their fans are trying to trade draft picks? Very good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 1334959176[/url]' post='2441976']simulating your idea, the trade nets us Dwayne Allen, and lets us still get Kuechly: 15 Buffalo Luke Kuechly ILB Boston College 41 Buffalo Alshon Jeffery WRF South Carolina 71 Buffalo Brandon Mosley OT Auburn 88 Buffalo Dwayne Allen TE Clemson 105 Buffalo Reuben Randle WRF LSU 124 Buffalo Shaun Prater CB Iowa 144 Buffalo Emmanuel Acho OLB43 Texas 147 Buffalo Jarius Wright WRS Arkansas 178 Buffalo Olivier Vernon DE43 Miami (FL) 217 Buffalo Jacory Harris QB Miami (FL) 251 Buffalo Jamie Blatnick DE43 Oklahoma State Geez astro, I love you man, but I think draftek really undervalues randle. I'll be shocked if he's not taken in rd 1, but somehow draftek has him as a 4th? I don't get it. The kid is a player and I'll wager 1 $100 that he doesn't make it out of round 2 with anyone on the board (I'll make up to 10 bets as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 For the people who think that a 2nd is too much just take a look at the redskins last year. They traded their 10 pick to Jax for the 16 and 49 pick in last years draft. If philly wants to thats what we get in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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