3rdnlng Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 no, but another bush might be. Reggie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 So, yes? just pointing out that criticizing kerry for his military record (which was an unimaginably successful campaign tactic) is rather rich when there are so many chicken hawk republicans thast are so much more worthy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 just pointing out that criticizing kerry for his military record (which was an unimaginably successful campaign tactic) is rather rich when there are so many chicken hawk republicans thast are so much more worthy.. Didn't help that Kerry was a ****ty candidate for that election, which was the joke I was making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfatbillsfan Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Didn't help that Kerry was a ****ty candidate for that election, which was the joke I was making. I don't think that's much of a joke. Kerry really was one of the shittiest candidates put up for election in recent memory. It would be like if Bachman somehow won the primary for the GOP this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 i was pulling for howard dean in that one. probably more analogous to ron paul than bachman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) I don't think that's much of a joke. Kerry really was one of the shittiest candidates put up for election in recent memory. It would be like if Bachman somehow won the primary for the GOP this year. Then you probably share a lot of people's concern that Sen. Kerry is the leading candidate for the Secretary of State position in a second Obama administration ? . Edited February 21, 2012 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 just pointing out that criticizing kerry for his military record (which was an unimaginably successful campaign tactic) is rather rich when there are so many chicken hawk republicans thast are so much more worthy.. Kerry got called out by his own Bro's man. Show some decency and admit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfatbillsfan Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Then you probably share a lot of people's concern that Sen. Kerry is the leading candidate for the Secretary of State position in a second Obama administration ? . That's a hard question. SecState is quite a bit of a difference from President. If he had execute the responsibilities of the position then fine. If not... What are they planning on doing with Hillary? VP? God knows at least she wouldn't gaff every time she opened her mouth the way Biden does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Kerry got called out by his own Bro's man. Show some decency and admit that. he was called out for being anti war on his return. that stance is often very expensive, even if you're right, just ask the dixie chicks. the guy was in combat. how many recent presidential candidates can say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 he was called out for being anti war on his return. that stance is often very expensive, even if you're right, just ask the dixie chicks. the guy was in combat. how many recent presidential candidates can say that. I thought he was called out for lying about his service record. Or are you saying that's ok if you served in combat conditions at some point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 That's a hard question. SecState is quite a bit of a difference from President. If he had execute the responsibilities of the position then fine. If not... What are they planning on doing with Hillary? VP? God knows at least she wouldn't gaff every time she opened her mouth the way Biden does. Hilary as VP? Ever since Bush chose Quayle, the choice of VP always seems to come down to "assassination insurance". No one's going to shoot Bush when Cheney's next in line. No one's shooting Obama with Biden next in line. Hilary? She'd shoot Obama herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Hilary as VP? Ever since Bush chose Quayle, the choice of VP always seems to come down to "assassination insurance". No one's going to shoot Bush when Cheney's next in line. No one's shooting Obama with Biden next in line. Hilary? She'd shoot Obama herself. I'd hand her the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I thought he was called out for lying about his service record. Or are you saying that's ok if you served in combat conditions at some point? Didn't he make up crap about atrocities being committed by Americans so he could support hippy commies because that was his only shot at ever getting laid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 i was pulling for howard dean in that one. probably more analogous to ron paul than bachman. He probably would have won the nomination if not for his mighty "bbyyyyaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!" Dean screams, Kerry pretty much adopts all Dean's views and positions himself as a less weird Howard Dean. Another shining example of how much Americans care about "the issues." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Then you probably share a lot of people's concern that Sen. Kerry is the leading candidate for the Secretary of State position in a second Obama administration ? . He'd be pretty good at it. The guy is smart, but not a great politician, sort of like that Romney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 He'd be pretty good at it. The guy is smart, but not a great politician, sort of like that Romney So you don't think a SoS needs to be a great politician? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 So you don't think a SoS needs to be a great politician? No, he/she needs diplomatic skills, which are very different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 No, he/she needs diplomatic skills, which are very different Which requires great political skills. You need both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Which requires great political skills. You need both. Not in the same way, a politician pandes to the filthy masses, a diplomate panders to depraved heads of state. Politician needs to play a leader on tv, a diplomate needs to actually do it in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) He probably would have won the nomination if not for his mighty "bbyyyyaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!" Dean screams, Kerry pretty much adopts all Dean's views and positions himself as a less weird Howard Dean. Another shining example of how much Americans care about "the issues." that was assasination by the "liberal" (read establishment) media. just too far out of the main stream and unbeholden for them to support. same reasons why he wasn't reupped as head of dnc after handing the dems wins in states they'd never expected. was the perfect and obvious obama choice for head of hhs but supposedly emmanuel despised him. he's a true outsider, much like paul is to the republicans. unfortunately, neither will ever beat the machines. Edited February 21, 2012 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Not in the same way, a politician pandes to the filthy masses, a diplomate panders to depraved heads of state. Politician needs to play a leader on tv, a diplomate needs to actually do it in person. filthy masses I thought you where a fake. Nah you really are a cooked freak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Sorry I'm late to this thread, I was busy polishing my Medal Of Honor that I got after defeating the entire Vietcong army, and established the first Starbucks at the Hanoi Hilton. Can I get a discount on my Hot Pockets now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Sorry I'm late to this thread, I was busy polishing my Medal Of Honor that I got after defeating the entire Vietcong army, and established the first Starbucks at the Hanoi Hilton. Can I get a discount on my Hot Pockets now? Only before 4:00pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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