markgbe Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Just posted on the old twitter by Jason la Canfora "Longtime QB coach Alex Van Pelt joining Packers offensive staff. Giants also had interest #insideslant" Edited February 13, 2012 by markgbe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I noticed Tom Clements, former Bills OC, is now the Packers OC. Curious how our trash becomes treasure for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I noticed Tom Clements, former Bills OC, is now the Packers OC. Curious how our trash becomes treasure for others. If that wasn't the case, every coach would have a job in the same place, unless he died, retired, or decided himself, to move on. Every coach gets fired... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Glad AVP landed on his feet. I heard him on Shredd & Ragan a few weeks ago saying he was at the Senior Bowl, basically talking to everyone trying to land a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 If that wasn't the case, every coach would have a job in the same place, unless he died, retired, or decided himself, to move on. Every coach gets fired... I think the point to his post was how they are considered trash to everyone when they are here, then they go out sign with other teams and have success like Fewell and Gilbride for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cody Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I noticed Tom Clements, former Bills OC, is now the Packers OC. Curious how our trash becomes treasure for others. He was just promoted to OC. He was their QB coach last season. He is not yet 'treasure for others' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 He was just promoted to OC. He was their QB coach last season. He is not yet 'treasure for others' Additionally they won't be using Clements playbook, he won't be calling plays, and he has all the talent in the world on that roster- so let's tread lightly on comparisons between situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Glad AVP landed on his feet. I heard him on Shredd & Ragan a few weeks ago saying he was at the Senior Bowl, basically talking to everyone trying to land a job. Not sure what happened to the Chicago job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I think the point to his post was how they are considered trash to everyone when they are here, then they go out sign with other teams and have success like Fewell and Gilbride for example. How bout Turk Schonert? He was a gem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I noticed Tom Clements, former Bills OC, is now the Packers OC. Curious how our trash becomes treasure for others. JP Losman. Nice guy but a coach killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Not sure what happened to the Chicago job Chicago decided to "not throw in the towel" I guess like the crazy thread said a week ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 JP Losman. Nice guy but a coach killer. If only that were true. Jouron just can't be killed with Earthly weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Chicago decided to "not throw in the towel" I guess like the crazy thread said a week ago I guess they did. Good for AVP though--he just got the easiest gig in the Nfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think the point to his post was how they are considered trash to everyone when they are here, then they go out sign with other teams and have success like Fewell and Gilbride for example. Thanks! That was the point. Just seems like a lot of both coaches and players we've been more-than-happy to jettison have gone on to have success elsewhere. Admittedly, I was among those happy to see both Clements and Gilbride say goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cody Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Just seems like a lot of both coaches and players we've been more-than-happy to jettison have gone on to have success elsewhere. I do not think that many coaches jettisoned by the Bills have gone on to have that much success. Kevin Gilbride is Kevin Gilbride. He can put together a very good offense and at the same time drive you crazy, ask Buddy Ryan. Aside from Gilbride, none of Buffalo's offensive coordinators have had any real success elsewhere since the superbowl era. Perry Fewell coordinated a defense that ranked 27th in yards allowed last year. Jerry Gray's Titans ranked 18th in yards allowed and missed the play-offs. Aside from those two 'successful' coordinators, none of Buffalo's defensive coordinators have had any real success elsewhere since Ted Cotrell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think coaches learn from their mistakes and get better from job to job. You have to factor that in when looking at coaches at new places. Especially 10 years later. They get better after learning what not to do. Or after coming into contact with other coaches and picking up some new good techniques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think the point to his post was how they are considered trash to everyone when they are here, then they go out sign with other teams and have success like Fewell and Gilbride for example. By everyone you mean everyone except the few of us who are ridiculed for suggesting that QB and pass-rushers dwarf coordinators in importance by a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I do not think that many coaches jettisoned by the Bills have gone on to have that much success. Kevin Gilbride is Kevin Gilbride. He can put together a very good offense and at the same time drive you crazy, ask Buddy Ryan. Aside from Gilbride, none of Buffalo's offensive coordinators have had any real success elsewhere since the superbowl era. Perry Fewell coordinated a defense that ranked 27th in yards allowed last year. Jerry Gray's Titans ranked 18th in yards allowed and missed the play-offs. Aside from those two 'successful' coordinators, none of Buffalo's defensive coordinators have had any real success elsewhere since Ted Cotrell. funny how you mention Ted Cottrell he was the worst of the bunch and got fired from 4 different teams Wade Phillips was the last OC or DC worth a damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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