Jerry Jabber Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I know a lot of people are down on the Bills (including me), and people have been questioning Fitz's play since his contract extension. Granted, the team has sucked since the Toronto game. I don't know if Fitz has been playing hurt since getting nailed by London Fletcher. IMO, Fitz is a good QB and needs more weapons around him. Fred Jackson is 50% of the offense. The other legitmate weapons Fitz has are Stevie Johnson & Scott Chandler. If you compare the stats of Jim Kelly's 3 best years with Buffalo, with Fitz stats of this year, Fitz is not that far off. It's possible Fitz could beat Kelly's highest yards in a season. Right now, Fitz is at 3,329, with 2 games to go. Kelly had 3,844 in 1991, with a much better Bills offense. IMO, I think in order for the Bills offense to be successful, they need to draft a good #2 WR (assuming they resign Johnson) and another TE to compliment Chandler. If the Bills could get a good TE combo, like NE has with Hernandez & Gronkowski, along with 2 good WR's & Jackson & Spiller in the backfield, then the Bills will have a successful offense. I think Fitz is a good journeyman QB and should be the starter for the next 2-3 years, while Boss Hogg & Cooter fill the holes on the team, and create depth. http://www.nfl.com/player/jimkelly/2501579/profile Season Team Passing Rushing Fumbles G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost 1991 Buffalo Bills 15 15 304 474 64.1 3,844 8.1 33 17 31 227 97.6 20 45 2.3 1 6 0 1986 Buffalo Bills 16 -- 285 480 59.4 3,593 7.5 22 17 43 330 83.3 41 199 4.9 0 -- -- 1992 Buffalo Bills 16 16 269 462 58.2 3,457 7.5 23 19 20 145 81.2 31 53 1.7 1 8 4 Fitz's stats: 2011 Buffalo Bills 14 14 309 496 62.3 3,329 6.7 22 19 19 132 80.8 48 157 3.3 0 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 No, he's not that bad. He's exactly what he is and what he's being paid like. He'll do until you have a chance to grab that "15 year guy" that Nix/Gailey talked about before the last draft. And that's just what his extension was designed to allow the Bills to do. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 He is that bad, when he is that bad. Then other times, he is not too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I know a lot of people are down on the Bills (including me), and people have been questioning Fitz's play since his contract extension. Granted, the team has sucked since the Toronto game. I don't know if Fitz has been playing hurt since getting nailed by London Fletcher. IMO, Fitz is a good QB and needs more weapons around him. Fred Jackson is 50% of the offense. The other legitmate weapons Fitz has are Stevie Johnson & Scott Chandler. If you compare the stats of Jim Kelly's 3 best years with Buffalo, with Fitz stats of this year, Fitz is not that far off. It's possible Fitz could beat Kelly's highest yards in a season. Right now, Fitz is at 3,329, with 2 games to go. Kelly had 3,844 in 1991, with a much better Bills offense. IMO, I think in order for the Bills offense to be successful, they need to draft a good #2 WR (assuming they resign Johnson) and another TE to compliment Chandler. If the Bills could get a good TE combo, like NE has with Hernandez & Gronkowski, along with 2 good WR's & Jackson & Spiller in the backfield, then the Bills will have a successful offense. I think Fitz is a good journeyman QB and should be the starter for the next 2-3 years, while Boss Hogg & Cooter fill the holes on the team, and create depth. http://www.nfl.com/player/jimkelly/2501579/profile Season Team Passing Rushing Fumbles G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost 1991 Buffalo Bills 15 15 304 474 64.1 3,844 8.1 33 17 31 227 97.6 20 45 2.3 1 6 0 1986 Buffalo Bills 16 -- 285 480 59.4 3,593 7.5 22 17 43 330 83.3 41 199 4.9 0 -- -- 1992 Buffalo Bills 16 16 269 462 58.2 3,457 7.5 23 19 20 145 81.2 31 53 1.7 1 8 4 Fitz's stats: 2011 Buffalo Bills 14 14 309 496 62.3 3,329 6.7 22 19 19 132 80.8 48 157 3.3 0 7 2 He's bad only when he tries to carry the whole offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 he is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 He's bad only when he tries to carry the whole offense. You're right. Fitz is not Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. Both Brady & Manning can carry the entire offense, Fitz needs a good supporting cast around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 There's talk around the league of the Bills voiding the remainder of contract extension early in the 2012 League Year: Last part of the Peter King article: "THE FITZPATRICK CONTRACT. "You mentioned the Bills thudding back to reality with Ryan Fitzpatrick at the helm. I want to know if it's realistic that the Bills can do something about his contract extension? I have heard, but not been able to confirm, that Buffalo has three days into the new league year to cut him and save $49M. Is that true and if so, is it a realistic possibility?'' -- Lawrence Foster, of Roswell, N.M. Good question. Mike Florio, my NBC partner, had a good note about the contract: The Bills have until the seventh day of the next league year, March 19, 2012, to exercise a clause in the contract that will activate the rest of the deal. To activate, the Bills pay him $5 million. If they don't pay, the contract is voided and the Bills owe him nothing ... but he's a free agent then. So after paying him his salary this year plus a $10 million bonus, the Bills would be able to move on. Not sure they're even thinking of that yet, but the way he and the team have played in the last two months, you have to think it'll be an offseason consideration" Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/12/20/week.15/index.html#ixzz1h7AacnHo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's in My Blood Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I do agree Fitz needs more of a solid supporting cast to be successful, however , his accuracy lately has been horrible. Im a big supporter if Fitz and firmly believe he can win in the NFL but his inability to consistently hit the deep throws are a big concern and something he needs to greatly improve if he wants to remain a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Fitz is badder than Levi Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalooByrd Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 When healthy, he's not that good. Every quarterback takes a beating during the regular season. Fitz was getting great protection for most of the season. Fact is he ain't that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 He is that bad, when he is that bad. Then other times, he is not too bad. ^^ This....Fitz looked "all world" in the beginning of the season, but has looked terrible as the season has progressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hater Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Fitzpatrick isn't bad he just not a franchise QB & no matter who you surround him with its not going to improve his skill set, he a back up, a guy who can go out & win you two or three games if you need him but he is not going to lead you through a sixteen game schedule to a division tile let alone the playoffs People keep asking why the Bills have won in over ten years well that simple, you need a great Head Coach & a Franchise QB, if you think not go look at the last ten Superbowl winners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Fitzpatrick isn't bad he just not a franchise QB & no matter who you surround him with its not going to improve his skill set, he a back up, a guy who can go out & win you two or three games if you need him but he is not going to lead you through a sixteen game schedule to a division tile let alone the playoffs When you lose 7 in a row and running. The "he's a good back up" kind of loses its creditability. The guy holding the clip board this year is even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) He is that bad, when he is that bad. Then other times, he is not too bad. I think his skills are adequate enough for him to perform at a high level. I think he is physically tough. I think he has his teammates respect. I don't think he is tough enough mentally to lead a team through a whole season. I think the injuries to the team ARE enough of an excuse for the team to lose some of these games, maybe even all that they have. But there's no way the injuries are an excuse for the way he has fallen apart. Ryan Fitzlacksit. Edited December 20, 2011 by Matthews' Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshiero Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I know a lot of people are down on the Bills (including me), and people have been questioning Fitz's play since his contract extension. Granted, the team has sucked since the Toronto game. I don't know if Fitz has been playing hurt since getting nailed by London Fletcher. IMO, Fitz is a good QB and needs more weapons around him. Fred Jackson is 50% of the offense. The other legitmate weapons Fitz has are Stevie Johnson & Scott Chandler. If you compare the stats of Jim Kelly's 3 best years with Buffalo, with Fitz stats of this year, Fitz is not that far off. It's possible Fitz could beat Kelly's highest yards in a season. Right now, Fitz is at 3,329, with 2 games to go. Kelly had 3,844 in 1991, with a much better Bills offense. IMO, I think in order for the Bills offense to be successful, they need to draft a good #2 WR (assuming they resign Johnson) and another TE to compliment Chandler. If the Bills could get a good TE combo, like NE has with Hernandez & Gronkowski, along with 2 good WR's & Jackson & Spiller in the backfield, then the Bills will have a successful offense. I think Fitz is a good journeyman QB and should be the starter for the next 2-3 years, while Boss Hogg & Cooter fill the holes on the team, and create depth. http://www.nfl.com/player/jimkelly/2501579/profile Season Team Passing Rushing Fumbles G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost 1991 Buffalo Bills 15 15 304 474 64.1 3,844 8.1 33 17 31 227 97.6 20 45 2.3 1 6 0 1986 Buffalo Bills 16 -- 285 480 59.4 3,593 7.5 22 17 43 330 83.3 41 199 4.9 0 -- -- 1992 Buffalo Bills 16 16 269 462 58.2 3,457 7.5 23 19 20 145 81.2 31 53 1.7 1 8 4 Fitz's stats: 2011 Buffalo Bills 14 14 309 496 62.3 3,329 6.7 22 19 19 132 80.8 48 157 3.3 0 7 2 To answer your question, YES he is that bad and worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 He's bad only when he tries to carry the whole offense. He is bad... when the Bills get down by 7 points and the head coach has his head so far up his own butt that he stops running the ball (even when its working well) and just constantly calls shotgun passing plays Thereby putting even more pressure on a QB with a bad O line who doesn't have time to throw the 5-7 step drops. This team should have hired Turk Schonert as HC, he would be doing the exact same thing as Gailey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 You're right. Fitz is not Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. Both Brady & Manning can carry the entire offense, Fitz needs a good supporting cast around him. I think he's more of a Ground Chuck QB than a K-Gun QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggieScooby Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Fitz has 2 games to rebound from a terrible 1-7 start since signing his extension. I don't think we will dump him no matter how he performs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I could pick any player on this team and people would say"he's not bad, it's the players around him". Or"I think he's hurt". Or "it's Chans fault". And so on and on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Fitz has stubby fingers like Lisa Simpson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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