BillsNYC Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Does he really deserve a nomination for Best Picture? I know the libs loved the move and it got a lot of attention, but best picture? Come on...you can't honestly say it deserves a nomination, let alone win it! I wonder if the Passion will get a nomination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 michael moore needs more cowbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothrop Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 absolutly. Despite your particular ideological leanings the picture can be viewed on its own merit. The picture was compelling. One of the more powerful moments that I have ever expereinced in a movie theater was Moore's choice to let the picture go completely black and only play the audio of the towers being hit and coming down. That haunted me in a similar way that the actual day of the attacks did. He captured the emotions people felt at the moment of the attack in a way that the video does not anymore (maybe because it has been played billions of times). That type of artistic choice is contained throughout the film. Moore also did a great job capturing the fear, anger, paranoia, humor, politics, and the ubsurdidies resulting from 9/11. It was great film making, notwithstanding his politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted December 23, 2004 Author Share Posted December 23, 2004 One of the more powerful moments that I have ever expereinced in a movie theater was Moore's choice to let the picture go completely black and only play the audio of the towers being hit and coming down. 175517[/snapback] That idea was actually taken from a previous documentary. And you want moving...The Passion was moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted December 23, 2004 Author Share Posted December 23, 2004 Moore also did a great job capturing the fear, anger, paranoia, humor, politics, and the ubsurdidies resulting from 9/11. It was great film making, notwithstanding his politics. 175517[/snapback] Exactly..it was a documentary...not a movie...therefore should not be compared to standard movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I heard someone being interviewed state that The Passion couldn't be nominated for best picture because it's a foreign language film. It could be nominated in other categories though. I don't know if that's true - I'm not much for following that sort of thing. Typically in my opinion many pictures that win all those awards aren't very good. For example I thought Titanic sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I heard someone being interviewed state that The Passion couldn't be nominated for best picture because it's a foreign language film. It could be nominated in other categories though. 175594[/snapback] That's too bad. I didn't think it would get an award, just for the overt religiousness of the movie. But I thought it deserved a nomination, simply because all religion aside, it was a powerful and well-done movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted December 23, 2004 Author Share Posted December 23, 2004 it was a powerful and well-done movie. 175611[/snapback] Key word...Movie...not documentary coughpropogandacough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Key word...Movie...not documentary coughpropogandacough... 175674[/snapback] F911 technically was a movie and not a documentary, as it was largely fictional... And yes, I've seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passepartout Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Not on my watch or clock does he! He's already ruined his reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Not on my watch or clock does he! He's already ruined his reputation. 175792[/snapback] Reputation ruined? He is more famous now than ever, tons and tons of people saw the movie. Even people who hate him are talking about him. He didn't ruin his reputation, he made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Reputation ruined? He is more famous now than ever, tons and tons of people saw the movie. Even people who hate him are talking about him. He didn't ruin his reputation, he made it. 175823[/snapback] It still isn't a very good movie, by what should be Academy Award standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Why not? Fiction movies deserve nominations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 It was great film making, notwithstanding his politics.175517[/snapback] would have been better (and a tad more realistic) if he'd thrown in some hobbits and maybe a spaceship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 F911 technically was a movie and not a documentary, as it was largely fictional... And yes, I've seen it. 175732[/snapback] Why would you say that? What makes it technically more a movie than a documentary? I don't think it fits either category cleanly at all but it is far more a documentary than a feature film, and I assume that the Academy of Motion Pictures would deem it so. If you go by the dictionary definition of "documentary" you would exclude a lot of documentaries from being documentaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 The answer to the question is no, no, a thousand times no, it does not come close to being best picture. There was very little directing, there was very little acting (except, of course, when it was trying to be "true"), there was no film score, the editing was slipshod, the pacing was absymal, it jumped around and around and back again which made it structurally annoying and episodic, the sound was weak at best, there was no lighting. Virtually all of the elements that make up great filmmaking were either non-existant or weak. And this is The Best Picture of the Year? Hardly. It was entertaining, sure. It had a few laughs. It made a couple good points. There was a few choice moments. It had a couple good tunes. It did a great job of making you feel lousy that a parent lost her kid in war. It poked good natured fun at a lot of things. But great filmmaking? Not even remotely close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 If you go by the dictionary definition of "documentary" you would exclude a lot of documentaries from being documentaries. 176819[/snapback] I probably would. Lord knows documentary television hasn't produced a documentary in nearly 20 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 I probably would. Lord knows documentary television hasn't produced a documentary in nearly 20 years... 176865[/snapback] Tom, is there a reason to believe that "Roger and Me" was stevestojan? As a trade unionist, I must confess that I was impressed and perhaps inspired by that film. What's up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Since there's already a Moore thread up, I thought I'd add this little tidbit recently released. Moore so depressed over election, he becomes a hermit for three days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Since there's already a Moore thread up, I thought I'd add this little tidbit recently released. Moore so depressed over election, he becomes a hermit for three days. 182807[/snapback] And yet Reggie White dies of a heart attack. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Since there's already a Moore thread up, I thought I'd add this little tidbit recently released. Moore so depressed over election, he becomes a hermit for three days. 182807[/snapback] Michael Moore has many things to be depressed about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Michael Moore has many things to be depressed about. 183295[/snapback] Starting with his "dickey-do". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Starting with his "dickey-do". 183694[/snapback] Fag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Fag. 183703[/snapback] Careful, you can be brought up on interstate hate email trafficing. Bubba will like you in jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Careful, you can be brought up on interstate hate email trafficing. Bubba will like you in jail. 183709[/snapback] Its slang in England for a cigarette. Good luck prosecuting that one. Fag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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