SelmonSmith6378 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see Brandon Lloyd in Buffalo! The very thought makes me excited! Great, veteran reciever and HUGE compliment to Fitzmagic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Play Kamar Aiken! nailed it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today. Â .......Google it! Â I think I found it ............ Â http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk-gaGbMCpA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsner Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) No Lloyd. Bills will make due until Jones is back and until then others will get xp. A 4th round pick that would've been supposedly used on Lloyd can instead be used to try and find another Hairston next draft. Â Also would his mentality mesh with this team or would he be a cancer? Too many peeps neglect to consider mentality. Edited October 16, 2011 by Pilsner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 When you have a strong locker room with strong leaders and a group of guys who all buy into the team-first mentality, you can take on one player with a checkered past. In order to fit in with his new family, the acquisition has no choice but to fall in line. We've seen it work before, including the case of Moss in New England*. Lloyd can help us on the field. Â Still don't think it makes sense to give up more than a 5th for a 10-game rental, and not sure if a new contract for Lloyd fits the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsner Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 You know Boone you're right that a strong locker room should be able to handle a newcomer with any idiosyncracies that individual may have. But no need to try this unless the circumstances are extreme which they aren't. Â I'm glad you wouldn't want to part with a 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumblinstumblin Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 incarceratedbob incarcerated bob **UPDATED NFL RUMORS**Source: Brandon Lloyd sweepstakes are heating up 3teams have made offers (Bills / 49ers / Pats) Bills on outside now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I would gladly take loyde for a reasonable price. My only problem is that is contract is up after this season... so if we want to keep him longterm, we would have re-sign the guy. And that wont be easy since we have (or should) work out contracts for stevie and fitz, and rework jackson's contract. COmplete 4 major contracts in one offseason doesn't seem like something the bills front office could really handle. I guess it is great that williams has his worked out, but there is a lot to be done to secure this team's nucleus and continue building on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I would gladly take loyde for a reasonable price. My only problem is that is contract is up after this season... so if we want to keep him longterm, we would have re-sign the guy. And that wont be easy since we have (or should) work out contracts for stevie and fitz, and rework jackson's contract. COmplete 4 major contracts in one offseason doesn't seem like something the bills front office could really handle. I guess it is great that williams has his worked out, but there is a lot to be done to secure this team's nucleus and continue building on that. The Bills also have to come up with new contracts for unrestricted free agents to be, Demetrius Bell, Bryan Scott, Ryan Lindell, Erik Pears, Chad Rinehart and Scott Chandler.  Andra Davis, Kirk Morrison, and Reggie Torbor will also all be UFA but the Bills will likely keep only one of them at most.  Point being what you already pointed out except even worse… giving Brandon Lloyd a new contract would make things very difficult for the front office.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 The Bills also have to come up with new contracts for unrestricted free agents to be, Demetrius Bell, Bryan Scott, Ryan Lindell, Erik Pears, Chad Rinehart and Scott Chandler.  Andra Davis, Kirk Morrison, and Reggie Torbor will also all be UFA but the Bills will likely keep only one of them at most.  Point being what you already pointed out except even worse… giving Brandon Lloyd a new contract would make things very difficult for the front office. Bell, Pears, Reinhart are all restricted. They aren't keeping any of those 3 LBs. They have the room to sign him especially after letting Roscoe go. It won't happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) Bell, Pears, Reinhart are all restricted. They aren't keeping any of those 3 LBs. They have the room to sign him especially after letting Roscoe go. It won't happen though. You might be right, JC but that's not my understanding. Â Players who have 4 or more years of NFL experience are eligible for unrestricted free agency. Â Bell: 2011 will be his 4th year. Pears: 2011 will be his 7th year. Rinehart: 2011 will be his 4th year. Â All of their contracts expire after 2011 (this season). Â Am I missing something? Â Â Edited October 17, 2011 by San Jose Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 The New England Patriots and St. Louis Rams were also in discussions for Lloyd, according to two sources. Â The San Francisco 49ers have shown the strongest interest in Denver Broncos receiver Brandon Lloyd, whom the Broncos said last week would be shopped around ahead of Tuesday's trade deadline, according to a report Sunday night in The Denver Post. Â Â http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82330f70/article/report-49ers-showing-strong-interest-in-broncos-wr-lloyd?module=HP11_headline_stack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) Traded to St Louis  JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora 12 mins Brandon Lloyd is being dealt to the Rams. More to come on NFL.com and NFL Network  PFT Story Edited October 17, 2011 by Carey Bender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Good move for Denver. Rams will be picking high in the draft next year and the Broncos don't play them this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colie Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Good move for Denver. Rams will be picking high in the draft next year and the Broncos don't play them this year. Â Odd move for St. Louis, picking up a free-agent to be on a 0-5 team. Seems to fly in the face of rebuilding unless they think want him long-term and getting his rights now gives them a jump on other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 You might be right, JC but that's not my understanding. Â Players who have 4 or more years of NFL experience are eligible for unrestricted free agency. Â Bell: 2011 will be his 4th year. Pears: 2011 will be his 7th year. Rinehart: 2011 will be his 4th year. Â All of their contracts expire after 2011 (this season). Â Am I missing something? Nope, you're right, they're all unrestricted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AntiFin Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I'm happy with this. Â I'd MUCH rather have Eddie Royal -- You know, the Denver WR who was drafted one spot *after* Hardly in 2008. I think he'd be a great complement to Stevie, and he's young. He has shown flashes, but given Denver's horrible situation and the fact that he's had at least three different QBs throwing to him in four years (Cutler, Orton, Tebow) -- I think he's underrated. He had a great rookie year and can move. Â I read a story on the wire the other day that he's on the block. I don't know if that changes with the Lloyd trade, but that's a guy for whom I could see us giving up a 4th. Â Why we're hanging on to Ruvell Martin is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colie Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I'm happy with this. Â I'd MUCH rather have Eddie Royal -- You know, the Denver WR who was drafted one spot *after* Hardly in 2008. I think he'd be a great complement to Stevie, and he's young. He has shown flashes, but given Denver's horrible situation and the fact that he's had at least three different QBs throwing to him in four years (Cutler, Orton, Tebow) -- I think he's underrated. He had a great rookie year and can move. Â I read a story on the wire the other day that he's on the block. I don't know if that changes with the Lloyd trade, but that's a guy for whom I could see us giving up a 4th. Â Why we're hanging on to Ruvell Martin is beyond me. Â If Lloyd went for 6th or 5th depending on his production, no way way it costs a 4th for Eddie Royal, who has been hurt all year and has only a couple catches. I would have been more than happy to part with a 5th for Lloyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AntiFin Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 If Lloyd went for 6th or 5th depending on his production, no way way it costs a 4th for Eddie Royal, who has been hurt all year and has only a couple catches. I would have been more than happy to part with a 5th for Lloyd. Lloyd is 30; Royal is 25. It's a groin injury and Royal is expected back after the bye. Hardly career ending. Â A healthy Lloyd has as many TDs this year as a hurt Royal. That would be zero. A healthy Lloyd has only 15 more catches than a hurt Royal. Could it be the messed up QB situation in Denver? Royal is a physical receiver who is a solid #2. Â I'm not getting the love for Lloyd -- One great year in nine. Glad we passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_red Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Royal has done crap since his rookie yr. no thanks. Â Llyod for just a 6th maybe a 5th, nicw get for STL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AntiFin Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Royal has done crap since his rookie yr. no thanks. Â Llyod for just a 6th maybe a 5th, nicw get for STL. What has Lloyd done this year? What did he do for his other seven seasons prior to last year? If you're gonna talk about "one year wonders," look at the guy you're hyping. Classic example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 i think it's a great deal for STL..... Â i think it would have been a good move for buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Odd move for St. Louis, picking up a free-agent to be on a 0-5 team. Seems to fly in the face of rebuilding unless they think want him long-term and getting his rights now gives them a jump on other teams. Lloyd is only 30 years old and potentially has another 4-5 years left. The Rams gave up at-worst a 5th rounder, and have the rest of the season to audition Lloyd and see whether he's worth re-signing for big bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Dont understand not going after Lloyd. Character issues phobia? Me first kind of guy/ Or maybe just a dumb FO non move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Dont understand not going after Lloyd. Character issues phobia? Me first kind of guy/ Or maybe just a dumb FO non move. I wonder if the interested teams were allowed to speak with his agent to get an idea of what his demands for a new contract are worth.  I know a 5th or 6th rounder isn't viewed by most people as having great value but Colie pointed out, if you're a young, rebuilding team like the Rams you wouldn't give up a draft choice for a rental player… especially when the team is winless and the season is already doomed.  In other words, the chances are very strong that St. Louis intends to sign Lloyd to a new contract.  I don't think they would have traded for him without having a conversation with his agent.  Therefore I think it's reasonable to assume that the other interested teams also spoke with his agent.  Maybe Lloyd's sense of his own value was not consistent with what the other teams had him appraised for.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 maybe McDaniels had something to do with the decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 maybe McDaniels had something to do with the decision? I'm sure he did… Lloyd had his career year under McDaniels but I think there had to be some degree of cost certainty for the Rams to make this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I wonder if the interested teams were allowed to speak with his agent to get an idea of what his demands for a new contract are worth.  I know a 5th or 6th rounder isn't viewed by most people as having great value but Colie pointed out, if you're a young, rebuilding team like the Rams you wouldn't give up a draft choice for a rental player… especially when the team is winless and the season is already doomed.  In other words, the chances are very strong that St. Louis intends to sign Lloyd to a new contract.  I don't think they would have traded for him without having a conversation with his agent.  Therefore I think it's reasonable to assume that the other interested teams also spoke with his agent.  Maybe Lloyd's sense of his own value was not consistent with what the other teams had him appraised for. I agree the Rams intend to seriously consider signing Lloyd to a new deal. I sort of think we might have done the same. What interests me is our FO's thinking. To put a positive, and possibly accurate spin on it, I think their reluctance to bring in FAs at the expense of draft choices (especially during the season) is part of the Bill's personnel policy under this FO. They fully commit to the team concept. Player's grow up in the system. The team commits to the players in that their development will be prioritized. What would it do to Jones head if after a promising start to the season the team parachuted Brandon Lloyd because Jones was out for 4-6 weeks. Physchologically this management approach is designed to bond the players to the organization and produce the best results for the long term, to get the most out of the players on you team, in the best interests of the team and of the players. Maybe Lloyd would have been lucky to be traded to the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Why do people think the Bills need a WR? Especially a 30 year old one who had 1 good season out of 8+? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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