Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 They could put a stool out there & we'd have trouble getting pressure. Scrappy, my good man, you commentary is sad, but true. Although this week they should gear toward containment vs. pinning their ears back against Vick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Dude that is gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 i think i asked this before but what became of the return that we got for peters? Eric Wood is seemingly doing pretty well for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Scrappy, my good man, you commentary is sad, but true. Although this week they should gear toward containment vs. pinning their ears back against Vick. I'm not sure if blitzing, major rushing is a good idea myself. I'd prefer to just collapse the pocket around him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) With D. Bell out of this contest, its almost a blessing that Trent Cole is not in this one. Jason Peters well you know... I agree it may be a blessing since the Eagles lead the entire NFL in sacks, so any little bit helps. Cross our fingers, Hairston might be the next Lou Gehrig. On the other side, with our non existent pass rush, I am worried about Michael Vick getting outside, just one more thing to worry about. Edited October 4, 2011 by billsfreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) i think i asked this before but what became of the return that we got for peters? Eric Woods, and then not sure if it was the fith round pick in this years draft or last. Edited October 4, 2011 by atlbillsfan1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Stench Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 Whoa, whoa, easy there killer. We're talking about the same Michael Vick who was crying about getting beaten like Tina Turner, right? Yes, we're also talking about the same Michael Vick who has only been sacked 6 times this year. Their offensive line isn't as bad as you think it is, it's just that it gets more attention because: One, it's the Eagles; and Two, because Vick publicly complained about the hits he was taking. We are also talking about the same Michael Vick who has had better rushing production than almost half of the league's starting running backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Yes, we're also talking about the same Michael Vick who has only been sacked 6 times this year. Their offensive line isn't as bad as you think it is, it's just that it gets more attention because: One, it's the Eagles; and Two, because Vick publicly complained about the hits he was taking. We are also talking about the same Michael Vick who has had better rushing production than almost half of the league's starting running backs. You couldn't be more wrong. They are talking about making changes and moving players. They didn't decide on their C and RT until a few days before opening game. I am in Philly and this is what is being said and written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 You couldn't be more wrong. They are talking about making changes and moving players. They didn't decide on their C and RT until a few days before opening game. I am in Philly and this is what is being said and written. This. Around these parts the OL, and especially Jason Peters, are thought of as ineffective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Stench Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 I agree it may be a blessing since the Eagles lead the entire NFL in sacks, ... Since when? You couldn't be more wrong. They are talking about making changes and moving players. They didn't decide on their C and RT until a few days before opening game. I am in Philly and this is what is being said and written. This doesn't make it any more true. In fact, it probably hurts your case. But regardless of how legitimate their line may be, my point was that if there's one QB in the league that is affected the least by poor line play, it's Vick, and that's not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Since when? This doesn't make it any more true. In fact, it probably hurts your case. But regardless of how legitimate their line may be, my point was that if there's one QB in the league that is affected the least by poor line play, it's Vick, and that's not even close. Tom Brady Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Eric Woods, and then not sure if it was the fith round pick in this years draft or last. It was Philly's 2nd first-round pick (Woods) and their 4thround pick (TE Shawn Nelson, released 9/3/2011) in 2009, and a 6th-round pick in 2010 (Danny Batten). Peters is a fat, aging, unmotivated, greedy, oft-injured malcontent. IMO, the Bills made out just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Stench Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 Tom Brady Anyone? What? How would you even know? Brady has always had one of the most experienced lines in the league. There are 3 pro bowlers currently on that line. Brady's a great quarterback who has always had all day to throw. Vick has considerably less time in the pocket and is still making plays. Same goes for Peyton Manning if you want to use "Peyton Manning, Anyone?" for your next answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvanvol Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Since when? This doesn't make it any more true. In fact, it probably hurts your case. But regardless of how legitimate their line may be, my point was that if there's one QB in the league that is affected the least by poor line play, it's Vick, and that's not even close. They were after week three now there tied with the redskins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Timely question as I believe Bell is an unrestricted free agent after this year. You are correct, sir. Contract details: 2011-$555K; 2012-Free Agent (link) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) If Hairston does well, do the Bills re-up Bell and at what cost? Does Bell want blindslide money for his solid performances the first couple of games? Unfortunately Ed Wang didn't work out as planned, so hope Hairston turns out to be a beast. Bell's contract demands should be reasonable, I think. Then, there's always the 2012 draft - lose Wang... Adcock . Edited October 4, 2011 by The Senator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Stench Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 They were after week three now there tied with the redskins Surprising, I was unaware of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 What? How would you even know? Brady has always had one of the most experienced lines in the league. There are 3 pro bowlers currently on that line. Brady's a great quarterback who has always had all day to throw. Vick has considerably less time in the pocket and is still making plays. Same goes for Peyton Manning if you want to use "Peyton Manning, Anyone?" for your next answer. Peyton Manning's spectacular line got crappy in a hurry once Manning wasn't around to make them look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBob Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Dude that is gross. Dude! Get your mind out of the sewer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qdawg in philly Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'm not sure if blitzing, major rushing is a good idea myself. I'd prefer to just collapse the pocket around him... That's part of it because we have to close the running lanes so he can't get out of the pocket. Also Chicago gave an excellent blue print on how to stop vick. I believe it was flushing him to his right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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