auburnbillsbacker Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 (edited) Last year Tampa Bay management turned their franchise around by drafting very talented players with questionable character later in the draft. Blount and Williams appear to be pro bowl caliber players and both were considered serious risks on draft day, thus they dropped to the later rounds. I realize that Josh Freemen played a large role as well. Right now the bills will have to decide whether to draft Pryor. I'm not a scout, so I don't have an opinion on how good of a pro he will be. If they do decide that he has the talent to be good, either as a slash or at another position, should the bills take a chance? Should be bills in future drafts take more risks on talented players with character issues in the mid to later rounds? I feel the bills need talent, and they have enough character guys to support a few players with a troubled past. Blount was not drafted as is stated later in this thread. That does not however, change the point of my post. Edited August 19, 2011 by auburnbillsbacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Pryor is and will be a BUST on and off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Tampa didn't draft Blount. Also, the risk still exists with these players. Ask Tennessee how they feel about taking risks on guys like Pac Man Jones, Albert Haynesworth & Kenny Britt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaPolian8693 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 I don't want Pryor. The Bills don't care that much about character, though. That was just a marketing buzzword popularized by the return of Marv Levy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 (edited) Absolutely we should care less about character in general than we have in the past. This regime doesn't really have (or "not have") that rep yet anyway though. Character is the most overrated thing in the history of all reporting. It's a media thing. There are a few guys in the league (or combination of guys w/ atmosphere/coach) that are toxic. Maybe 5ish...10 max. Even those few can be in the right position w/ the right people and have success. The idea these guys are sooo terrible and such thugs that character is some huge issue with so many of them...it's stupid. It's a damn football team. When you here "character" on ESPN or in a news article it should clue you off that they are giving some "Access Hollywood" type reporting for a bit as opposed to something real...it's the media created "reality show" part of football. It has nothing to do w/ who wins the SB. As for Pyror...he's just no good. If they decide he's a good talent at any position they suck. Edited August 19, 2011 by dayman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 I don't want Pryor. The Bills don't care that much about character, though. That was just a marketing buzzword popularized by the return of Marv Levy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 All players are a risk nowadays. Most of em are thugs cuz of that damn rap music yo. I'z gonna play in da NFL an get me some paid taday. Yeeeeeeeah boooooooooooooy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Would you use a third round pick at this point to take Tebow?... I don't know that I would. Now add character issues to Tebow's athletic ability and you have Pryor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Would you use a third round pick at this point to take Tebow?... I don't know that I would. Now add character issues to Tebow's athletic ability and you have Pryor. I bet Tim Tebow would punch you in the face if he saw this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 No. Character, as we have seen, is hugely important to the fans. They will run somebody out of town, even a good player, for character flaws. I happen to agree with them. Bills fans are wise, if nothing else, and we know the kind of player we need on the team. When it's freezing cold, in the 4th quarter, we don't need somebody who is character-deficient. On a darker level: we don't want players who are going to party for 2 weeks straight before the SB, as we have seen the results. The problem is: every sports agent/the Bills PR department knows that character is important. Which is why JP Losman was cleaning up the city, and spreading incoherent crap to kids. They are confused. They think Bills fans will somehow forget about a player's ability if they do things that make them look like they have character. They are mistaken. We know a real character guy when we see one, and, we know a good player when we see one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 (edited) I bet Tim Tebow would punch you in the face if he saw this post. Have you seen his accuracy?.... somehow I think my face is safe. After he missed, I'd point out that it was Jesus fault and offer him a non-alcoholic beverage. Edited August 19, 2011 by DasNootz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raleighbillsfan78 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 All players are a risk nowadays. Most of em are thugs cuz of that damn rap music yo. I'z gonna play in da NFL an get me some paid taday. Yeeeeeeeah boooooooooooooy! Youre right if they listened to Styx, Foreigner & REO Speedwagon they would be so much better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted August 20, 2011 Author Share Posted August 20, 2011 Youre right if they listened to Styx, Foreigner & REO Speedwagon they would be so much better! Maybe they wouldn't be better behaved, but they would be listening to better music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtbag Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 No. Character, as we have seen, is hugely important to the fans. They will run somebody out of town, even a good player, for character flaws. I happen to agree with them. Bills fans are wise, if nothing else, and we know the kind of player we need on the team. When it's freezing cold, in the 4th quarter, we don't need somebody who is character-deficient. On a darker level: we don't want players who are going to party for 2 weeks straight before the SB, as we have seen the results. The problem is: every sports agent/the Bills PR department knows that character is important. Which is why JP Losman was cleaning up the city, and spreading incoherent crap to kids. They are confused. They think Bills fans will somehow forget about a player's ability if they do things that make them look like they have character. They are mistaken. We know a real character guy when we see one, and, we know a good player when we see one. what's your argument? jp is bad for cleaning up the city? sports agents suck? only fans, who have zero intimate knowledge of the emotional life of players can be trusted to judge character? character on the football field is winning. that's all it is. it's about beating the hell out of the guy on the opposite side of the line. if a player is great, we will excuse all manner of transgressions. winning is the entire point of this enterprise. when it comes to the bills, i just want them to win. i'll look elsewhere for lessons in morality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Youre right if they listened to Styx, Foreigner & REO Speedwagon they would be so much better! rockin a huge mullet and drinkin schlitz ice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 I don't want Pryor. The Bills don't care that much about character, though. That was just a marketing buzzword popularized by the return of Marv Levy. I can't speak for the current FO but Marv talked about character as soon as he was hired as coach. What many people have forgotten over the years is that Marv wasn't talking about character as in choir boys. He placed high importance on "football" character. Those were the types of players he wanted. The kind that took care of business on and off the field. If his players were stellar citizens as well so much the better. But it wasn't a prerequisite. Kelly, Bruce, and many others partied hard off the field. But they ALWAYS took care of their business in practice, meetings, film study, and games. Football character. We've got some players that have it again. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTW2012 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Some draft previews mentioned red flags in the character of Lynch prior to the 2007 draft. Those turned out to be well-founded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwmann2 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 The only risk that turned how to be successful was Randy Moss. And he was still a sh##head in the locker room. Mike Brown has made Cincinnati the half way house of the NFL and how well is that working out? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 what's your argument? jp is bad for cleaning up the city? sports agents suck? only fans, who have zero intimate knowledge of the emotional life of players can be trusted to judge character? character on the football field is winning. that's all it is. it's about beating the hell out of the guy on the opposite side of the line. if a player is great, we will excuse all manner of transgressions. winning is the entire point of this enterprise. when it comes to the bills, i just want them to win. i'll look elsewhere for lessons in morality. And that on field character is what we need. 60 minutes, every Sunday. All out practice. There's a reason Ocho is struggling to adjust in a winning franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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